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   Abolisyonista (abolisyonista@ni.hil.ist)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 09:40:59 JST Abolisyonista

   @academicchatter how do I cite someone who published under their deadname? How I plan to do it on Zotero is:

   Lived LastName, lived first name (full deadname)

   Is there a better way to do it?

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     We Got One (psychictides@jorts.horse)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 10:03:13 JST We Got One

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     @abolisyonista @academicchatter using nee may be the least worst option

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     Weltschmerz à Gogo (thatweltschmerz@kolektiva.social)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 10:05:23 JST Weltschmerz à Gogo

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     @abolisyonista @academicchatter This has come up for me when I’ve cited a book by Amiri Baraka that he published when he was still going by LeRoi Jones. What I was told was to cite him as Amiri Baraka and note in the bibliography “(published as LeRoi Jones)”, or something similar.

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     We Got One (psychictides@jorts.horse)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 10:14:11 JST We Got One

     @abolisyonista @academicchatter https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/née

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     Jonathan Dresner (jondresner@spore.social)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 12:48:52 JST Jonathan Dresner

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     @abolisyonista @academicchatter
     What I have been assigning to my grad students is:
     Jonah Coman, "Trans citation practices — a quick-and-dirty guideline" 27 November 2018.
     https://mxcoman.medium.com/trans-citation-practices-a-quick-and-dirty-guideline-9f4168117115

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     Allan Haverholm (haverholm@imaginair.es)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 18:13:32 JST Allan Haverholm

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     @abolisyonista @academicchatter If deadnames can be considered equivalent to pseudonyms, maybe this can be of value: https://www.citethisforme.com/citation-generator/citation-basics/citing-a-pseudonym

     It suggests putting the author name stated in the publication first because that's what others need to retrieve the source, and giving the author's "real" name (which I would compare to their lived name) in brackets.

     I know this is the opposite of where you landed, and I understand the reasoning for emphasising an author's lived name over their given name. In some respects, lived names could also be considered pseudonymous in that they are assumed — although not for the same reasons.

     This is not a simple matter, but until there is a clear citation style guide on the subject I would use the published name first with the lived name in brackets for clarification, only to simplify the retrieval of cited sources.

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     Jeffrey J. Dean (jeffreyjdean@hcommons.social)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 20:59:36 JST Jeffrey J. Dean

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     @abolisyonista @academicchatter @taoish
     As others have said, ask the author if you can. If you can’t, my advice would be: lived name out of respect, but add [published as deadname] so readers can find the item.

     In the less sensitive matter of an author who changed their surname on marriage, I have cited “Jennifer Bernard (now Merkowitz)”, referring thereafter to “Bernard” since that’s how the article was published.

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     chrys_w (AK) 📡🏳️‍🌈 (chrys@sunny.garden)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 17:34:13 JST chrys_w (AK) 📡🏳️‍🌈

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     @abolisyonista @academicchatter Does the thing you're citing have a DOI? In this case it's easy to find even if you swap the name. Maybe add an asterisk "also published as...". And/or you could ask the author if they're alive and reachable.