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   Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 02:57:12 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_used_on_the_Internet
   > English used on half of the Web
   
   Maybe there should be less but I don't want to subject myself and others to so much french.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 03:04:46 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     Also wow Arabic is surprisingly low compared to Turkish, Persian, … do they write in french instead or something?
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 03:07:36 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @ellenor2000 Yeah could be that, input methods are hard.
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     La Ursidinoj (Bjornsdottirs) (ellenor2000@mastodon.top)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 03:07:37 JST La Ursidinoj (Bjornsdottirs)

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     @lanodan They write in Arabic chat alphabet

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 03:14:55 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • W3Techs
     Hi, @w3techs how do you count the languages used for https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/content_language ? Just the lang= attribute or also things like language detection?
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     Quad (quad@akko.quad.moe)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 03:22:01 JST Quad

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     @lanodan i like how norwegian appears twice on here because our language standards are simply that fucked
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 03:23:37 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Quad
     @quad Well there should also be Academic Arabic and other forms of Arabic.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 03:30:39 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Quad
     @quad I don't know Arabic much but IIRC the Academic one is like a lingua franca and then each country has their own dialect/language (And I've been told that intelligibility doesn't works that well).
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     Quad (quad@akko.quad.moe)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 03:30:41 JST Quad

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     @lanodan Oh sure there's many languages with more versions than Norwegian.
     
     But how high is the "population per variation" for Arabic? For Norwegian the written standard is split in two and there's no proper spoken standard. Despite only a single country/people using the language. As such we even have three language codes.
     
     If you go by sheer number of variations there's plenty worse.
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     Quad (quad@akko.quad.moe)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 03:31:32 JST Quad

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     @lanodan However I don't know of another language that's the primary language of a UN-recognized nation and is so crapped despite only a single country speaking it.
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 03:32:16 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Quad
     @quad Yeah, I think that's unique to Norwegian.
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     Quad (quad@akko.quad.moe)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 03:35:57 JST Quad

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     @lanodan Norwegians are so pissy about their dialects that Norway doesn't dare make any official standard for how to speak Norwegian. To the point where pronunciations are usually absent from dictionaries.
     
     It's also flat out illegal for a teacher in a Norwegian school to try and teach a child the "correct" way to speak.
     
     src: https://www.ntnu.edu/now/intro/background-norwegian
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 03:43:55 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Quad
     @quad So like Norwegian has per-word or ambiguous prononciation in the style of like English or it's more like regionalisms/accents?
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     Quad (quad@akko.quad.moe)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 03:51:49 JST Quad

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     @lanodan There's very clear regional "stereotypes" or typical traits. But it doesn't mean a region speaks the same.
     
     In some cases your neighbor can pronounce a word differently from you despite being in the same class at school and growing up in the same region. And no matter how much you're tempted to argue, both of you likely pronounced it correctly since there's no spoken standard.
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     Quad (quad@akko.quad.moe)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 03:54:31 JST Quad

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     @lanodan Norwegian can't even agree one something basic like the word "I"
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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 03:56:16 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Quad
     @quad Meanwhile French:
     - Je → 1rst person pronoun
     - J'ai → Quite literally "I've"
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     Quad (quad@akko.quad.moe)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 04:03:53 JST Quad

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     @lanodan
     - Eg har
     - Jeg har
     - E he
     - Æ ha
     - I hæ
     
     And probably many more all mean "I have".
     
     Luckily contractions aren't particularly common in Norwegian.
     
     But everything else can change. Even the syntax of the sentence.
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     Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 12:46:00 JST Ignas Kiela

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     @quad@akko.quad.moe @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me genuinely surprised Lithuanian reaches 0.1%
     
     a lot of languages with way more people talking them don't have that much

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 13:00:34 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Quad
     @ignaloidas @quad That graph is just useless due to Wikipedia though.
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     Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 13:00:35 JST Ignas Kiela

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     • Quad

     @quad@akko.quad.moe @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me huh, apparently Lithuanian sites are just way bigger on average?
     
     weird stuff

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     Ignas Kiela (ignaloidas@not.acu.lt)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 13:03:42 JST Ignas Kiela

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     • Quad

     @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @quad@akko.quad.moe and facebook
     
     but apparently blogger.com is a serious contender in lithuanian websites, which means that blogs are apparently still pretty popular here (something I can somewhat attest myself, there are quite a few lithuanian bloggers I follow).

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     Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 13:48:24 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     @alarig @quad Heh, I predict some potential flames incoming. :D
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     alarig (alarig@hostux.social)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 13:48:25 JST alarig

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     @quad @lanodan Well, that's because the last one is false, it should be Norwegian nynorsk. Plus Norwegian by default refers to bokmål, even if it isn't that much consistent, it's more a group of dialects.

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     W3Techs (w3techs@techhub.social)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2023 18:23:01 JST W3Techs

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     @lanodan We look at various forms of language attributes, and we also do language detection.

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