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   Cameo Wood (cameo@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 04:19:57 JST Cameo Wood

   This is a great article explaining how SAG day rate and residuals work. For a show like 'Friends' that airs on network, day rate was $500/day and residuals for a person that appeared on one episode in a speaking part could be as much as 50k a year.
   Orange is the new black paid $900 a day (SAG minimum for streaming), and a person that did 7 days of work for a three episode ark. That person recieved a quarterly streaming royalty check of $27.30.

   #SagAftraStrong

   https://www.newyorker.com/culture/notes-on-hollywood/orange-is-the-new-black-signalled-the-rot-inside-the-streaming-economy

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 04:19:57 JST feld

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     > a person that appeared on one episode in a speaking part could be as much as 50k a year.
     
     I know FRIENDS was like one of the biggest shows of all time but you're telling me that a rando character in one episode that happens to get a couple lines is gonna walk away with $50K/yr for almost forever?
     
     that seems pretty crazy to me
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 04:28:07 JST feld

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     I'm just asking: are two sentences on camera really worth $500M over 10 years?
     
     Like, really?
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     An Obscure Tenet (obscuretenet@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 04:28:08 JST An Obscure Tenet

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     @feld @Cameo It's only "crazy" because you've been told your entire life that a system in which you sell your rights to yourself, your work, your everything for a flat fee week after week after week is the only way to do things.

     Friends has been constantly aired for decades. Why wouldn't the people involved still get paid? Do you think Stephen King shouldn't get paid for every copy of The Shining sold?

     Without residuals, there are no working creatives. End of story.

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 05:11:53 JST feld

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     There was a 10 year period where Friends reruns/syndication was not happening anywhere?
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     Cameo Wood (cameo@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 05:11:54 JST Cameo Wood

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     @feld Friends didn't have reruns for 10 years. And the show made 1.5 billion dollars. The six stars made 816 million collectively. The one friends guest star made a total of 210k total for her participation - which isn't bad for someone that only gets 1-2 guest star gigs a year (not for lack of trying).

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 05:16:37 JST feld

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     ok, I understand what you mean here
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     Cameo Wood (cameo@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 05:16:39 JST Cameo Wood

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     @feld They might rerun the entire show, but not every season in one year. They might just run highlights or favorites. If your episode doesn't air that year, you don't get paid.

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 05:23:44 JST feld

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     Yeah, I recognize that the situation with streaming really really bad right now. This is a giant loophole being abused.
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     Cameo Wood (cameo@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 05:23:45 JST Cameo Wood

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     @feld And all those actors on the shows like Westworld or Willow that got pulled? They now make zero. So if they got paid SAG minimum plus residuals, they will now make zero for the rest of the show. The show has pulled the content until their residual contract runs out, and then they'll sell it for nothing.