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   Calvin Gaines (hyoomin@spinster.xyz)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 04:04:12 JST Calvin Gaines

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   • Cousin_Martha_Corey
   @Cousin_Isobel I get lots of transgendery books in this search result. If I narrow it to newspapers it seems to be used as a synonym for biological sex.
   
   "There may not be that many female welders or that many male secretaries, but it is not uncommon for men and women to train in fields that society typically considers nontraditional for persons of their gender." Cherokee County Herald, 22 Feb 1995
   
   There's another Google thing called "wordgram" (I think) that might have useful results. I will try to dig around later.
   
   https://www.google.com/search?q=gender&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:1900,cd_max:1999&tbm=bks
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     Calvin Gaines (hyoomin@spinster.xyz)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 04:04:12 JST Calvin Gaines

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     • Cousin_Martha_Corey
     @Cousin_Isobel The other tool is Google Ngram, but I don't really know what I'm doing 😁
     
     I'm aware of language wizards using these to demonstrate actual changes in language, and slicing up results to show geographical trends and so on. I imagine there's a way to distinguish biological sex, sexual intercourse, gender role, gender-as-a-euphemism-for-sex, gender identity, but I don't know how.
     
     https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=sex%2Cgender&year_start=1900&year_end=2019&corpus=en-2019&smoothing=3
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     Cousin_Martha_Corey (cousin_isobel@spinster.xyz)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 04:04:12 JST Cousin_Martha_Corey

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     @hyoomin Very useful! Wow, it didn’t take long for the term to be taken to mean “sexed soul,” after it began to take off at all. It was a couple of decades at most.

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     Calvin Gaines (hyoomin@spinster.xyz)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 04:04:12 JST Calvin Gaines

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     • Cousin_Martha_Corey
     @Cousin_Isobel Gender: An Ethnomethodological Approach (1985)
     
     "Kessler and McKenna convincingly argue that gender is not a reflection of biological reality but rather a social construct that varies across cultures."
     
     So that predates Judith Butler's "Gender Trouble" by five years. And from what I read on Wikipedia, Kessler and McKenna are already leveraging DSD to make their arguments.
     
     Notes from the rabbit hole:
     * Left Hand Of Darkness (1969)
     * Dialectic of Sex (1970)
     
     Are we just recycling history? When is grunge coming back?
     Seahorses are horses likes this.
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     Cousin_Martha_Corey (cousin_isobel@spinster.xyz)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 04:04:13 JST Cousin_Martha_Corey

     Can you use the word “gender,” as it would have been used in the 20th century, in a sentence?

     I know the etymology and the different meanings over time, but I don’t know how to use the 20th century sociological term in a sentence in a way that applies “gender” to a person.

     That is, I can say, “This society’s gender expectations of women include makeup and high heels,” but I can’t use the 20th century sociological term to say, “My gender is…” or “He is a member of the [fill in the blank] gender.”