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   nixCraft 🐧 (nixcraft@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 19:13:27 JST nixCraft 🐧

   Breaking: SUSE Preserves Choice in Enterprise Linux by Forking RHEL with a $10+ Million Investment https://www.suse.com/news/SUSE-Preserves-Choice-in-Enterprise-Linux/ #Linux #RHEL #SUSE

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 20:27:01 JST clacke

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     • ducky

     @nixCraft @ducky Hmmm, so there is a nuance difference here from what the other three are doing?

     When they say fork they mean a hard fork that will not strive for continued bug-for-bug compatibility with RHEL but will diverge over time?

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     nixCraft 🐧 (nixcraft@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 20:27:02 JST nixCraft 🐧

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     • ducky

     @ducky No, they forked it. They will now maintain their own version without using patches from Red Hat/IBM. Probably, Rocky and Alma may switch to one of new fork too. IDK. But it is a messy situation.

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     ducky@gearheads.social's status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 20:27:03 JST ducky

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     @nixCraft I don't see what possible help this is at all. Rocky and Alma are essentially a RHEL/CentOS fork, and are running into brick walls about how to carry on the future of said projects with ease. Surely SUSE is going to face the same challenges?

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     nixCraft 🐧 (nixcraft@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 20:27:05 JST nixCraft 🐧

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     If you're not familiar, Dirk-Peter van Leeuwen is the CEO of SUSE at the moment. He previously worked at Red Hat as a Senior VP for 18 years. With his experience, he poses a credible threat to RHEL, so it's clear that the current CEO is not to be underestimated and he is serious about it.

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     PlantG33k (plantgeek@geekdom.social)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 20:27:07 JST PlantG33k

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     @nixCraft

     Ooooohhh this is gonna get good.

     Who wants popcorn?

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     Morten Juhl-Johansen (mjjzf@mstdn.io)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 20:27:08 JST Morten Juhl-Johansen

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     @nixcraft Not wanting to seem like an asshole, but - why is this a good idea or even an idea? Given that Suse already offers - Suse? Why does Red Suse Enterprise Linux make a sensible offering?

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 20:27:08 JST clacke

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     • Morten Juhl-Johansen

     @mjjzf A RHEL-compatible is relevant because there is software certified for RHEL.

     Not sure what this Green Hat EL will add over what the other three are already doing though and what SuSE gains from it other than giving IBM the finger.

     If what @nixCraft is saying elsewhere in this thread is true, that RHEL compatibility would only be a starting point and they would make their own decisions after that, that would be different.

     Would they try to merge or at least deduplicate SLES and GHEL over time?

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 20:27:09 JST clacke

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     Yeah, would they be aiming for convergence? Not sure what that would look like, though.

     libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-1…

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     Salix 🇨🇿 🇺🇦 🇪🇺 🇮🇱 🇹🇼 (salix@mastodonczech.cz)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 20:27:18 JST Salix 🇨🇿 🇺🇦 🇪🇺 🇮🇱 🇹🇼

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     @nixCraft I wonder why SUSE does it. And how will it look in practice, also for @opensuse

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     Matthew Booth (mattb@hachyderm.io)'s status on Tuesday, 11-Jul-2023 20:27:24 JST Matthew Booth

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     @nixCraft On the face of it, this sounds sounds like they're planning to start a new distro based on a point-in-time fork of RHEL? If so, that's great.

     They describe it being RHEL-compatible, though. They're presumably going to create a new fork every time Red Hat changes something? Interested to know how this will differ from Rocky, Alma, et al.

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