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   Scorewegian 🎶 (music@berserker.town)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 13:06:07 JST Scorewegian 🎶

   cool, so the latest thing in digital audio recording is apparently the same idea i had recently:

   32-bit float recording that can't clip.

   with modern delta-sigma converters that we've been using for decades now, there isn't really a clipping point. they're just measuring voltage changes. the clipping only happens when decoding to PCM.

   so there's no reason to limit the dynamic range to 16 or 24 bits. you can just use floating point numbers, and those have an insane numeric range and precision.

   all DAWs use 32-bit floats internally anyway, so it makes perfect sense to also record in that format.

   #audio #musicproduction

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     Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺 (ned@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 13:06:05 JST Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

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     @music you still need correct gain on the preamp. Even if there is no clipping, you will get saturation if voltage is too high, and noise floor if voltage is too low.

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     Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺 (ned@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 13:16:12 JST Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

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     @music I guess I'll have to see it to believe it. But sounds reasonable I guess. No point adding an amplifier if the AD converter doesn't require it. Just adds more noise for no reason.

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     Scorewegian 🎶 (music@berserker.town)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 13:16:13 JST Scorewegian 🎶

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     • Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

     @ned remember that every professional condenser microphone out there already has an amplifier in it that doesn't require a gain setting. these 32-bit recorders essentially have the same dynamic range as such a microphone. there is no point in setting the gain. the output level will look really low in a DAW but it sounds absolutely fine when you turn it up.

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     Scorewegian 🎶 (music@berserker.town)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 13:16:15 JST Scorewegian 🎶

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     • Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

     @ned no, these don't work like that.

     https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1686005-REG/zoom_zf3_f3_digital_field_recorder.html

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     Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺 (ned@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 13:20:08 JST Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

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     @music any studio interfaces yet?

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     Scorewegian 🎶 (music@berserker.town)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 13:20:09 JST Scorewegian 🎶

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     • Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

     @ned several vendors have made recorders like these. some of them are so simple to use that they don't even have a menu system. it's not AGC. it's just a recorder that you don't need to set a gain on.

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     Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺 (ned@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 13:25:58 JST Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

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     @music will have to look later. My interest is anything that reduces the amount of electronics between air moving, and data in a computer, is a good thing.

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     Scorewegian 🎶 (music@berserker.town)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 13:25:59 JST Scorewegian 🎶

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     • Sir Nedwood - Sydney 🇦🇺

     @ned i don't know because i just learned of their existence. if you start googling it right now, you'll know more than me. i found out about the recorders in a video called something like "epic portable recorder test" and there aren't that many videos about them out there, so i think you'll find it if you just type that.