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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 07:24:42 JST Alex Gleason They say technology can't solve social problems. But they are wrong. While it's true technology can't change people's hearts, it can certainly influence how people behave. It's possible to design technology so it promotes good outcomes. You do this by balancing the trade-offs until its negative qualities actually support the thing you're trying to build. Then the design in harmony. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 07:24:42 JST Alex Gleason When your "pros" are all pros, and your "cons" are also all pros, then your design is in harmony. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 07:52:18 JST Alex Gleason @raucao Premise: "Your account identity is a private key."
Point: "Because your identity is a private key, it can get lost or stolen, and you will permanently lose access to your account."
Counterpoint 1: "Because your account can get permanently lost or stolen, we will build identity services, hardware wallets, and remote signers. Each of these will also solve a different, unrelated problem."
Counterpoint 2: "Because your identity is a private key, users can easily send encrypted direct messages."
Counterpoint 3: "Because your identity can get permanently lost or stolen, people will be more cautious, which will promote healthy skepticism." -
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Râu Cao ⚡ (raucao@kosmos.social)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 07:52:20 JST Râu Cao ⚡ @alex Can you still describe it as negative quality then? Could you give a specific example of what you have in mind?
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Râu Cao ⚡ (raucao@kosmos.social)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 08:02:36 JST Râu Cao ⚡ @alex Fair points!
In case this is meta about Nostr (or any other protocol where identity is a single keypair), I would propose that if you're unable to rotate keys at all, and have no concept of sub keys either, most identity services, as well as automations and integrations, are simply impossible to implement safely. So yes, while some challenges will inevitably lead to better outcomes, not all challenges can be solved by ignoring fundamentals I think.
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 10:37:36 JST Alex Gleason @tournelhenry @raucao Losing your key is very bad. But at least it's your responsibility. What's worse is if your admin deletes your entire server. Since we're speaking about hypotheticals anyway it's worth bringing up the worst case scenario for both protocols. -
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Tournel (tournelhenry@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 10:37:37 JST Tournel @raucao @alex The 1st and 3rd counterpoints further illustrates how bad loosing your key is LOL, The same key controls your wallets. Not just social media
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Râu Cao ⚡ (raucao@kosmos.social)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 10:37:38 JST Râu Cao ⚡ @tournelhenry @alex How so?
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Tournel (tournelhenry@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 10:37:39 JST Tournel @alex @raucao Geez! Sounds like you’re trying to convince us to ditch #Nostr
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Salastil (salastil@pleroma.salastil.com)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 11:08:25 JST Salastil Technology can solve social problems, but one has to be grounded in their expectations, sometimes the solution is far worse than the problem. Alex Gleason likes this. -
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Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 11:09:06 JST Alex Gleason @Salastil Love that image. Where did it come from? -
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Salastil (salastil@pleroma.salastil.com)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 11:19:07 JST Salastil The source is some Technocracy movement of the from the post WW1 period until maybe the mid 1930s. It was considered an illegal movement in places like Canada, and the UK, people got arrested all the time for it, apparently Elon Musk's grandfather was a member and got arrested for it in the 1930s. Alex Gleason likes this. -
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realcaseyrollins ✝️ (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Thursday, 06-Jul-2023 13:41:35 JST realcaseyrollins ✝️ @alex They say technology can’t solve social problems. But they are wrong.
You’re right! Here’s #Bard solving the trolley problem
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