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   kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 06:38:12 JST kaia
   I think it's understandable that Germans want to try out a right wing extremist party again after the last decades under nominal center or left governments they experienced a lowering standard of living and many issues resulting from climate change, migration and war. not necessarily the fault of the government - just the way the world's going.
   
   calling AfD voters Nazis will reinforce their warped perception that they are part of a "resistance" and that AfD will do something differently, will "clean up" or whatever. addressing AfD voters from a perceived moral high ground will destroy any chances to convince them that AfD has no actual solutions.
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     steeznson (steeznson@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 06:47:59 JST steeznson

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     @kaia I completely agree with this sentiment and I see the same thing in the UK. The moment you resort to the ad hominem attack of referring to your opponents as a basket of deplorables or w/e you've lost the argument.

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     grillchen (grillchen@brotka.st)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 06:48:33 JST grillchen

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     @kaia not sure if this is popular. im all in on attacking afd politicians. unless we have a better solution we have to convince afd voters or make them not vote at all... which isnt very democratic.
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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 06:49:47 JST kaia

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     @grillchen I'm fine with attacking the politicians, but attacking the voters you want to win for democratic parties is not smart :akko_mmh:
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     kolya (kolya@social.cologne)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 15:09:47 JST kolya

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     @kaia I'd rather chop my arm off than vote for AfD because their ideas are mean and anti-democratic and cost lives. But I see the same lazy self-righteousness on the left that I see with them. And it hurts me more on the left, because that used to be my happy place.

     Why are we discussing this in English anyway?

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     kolya (kolya@social.cologne)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 15:09:48 JST kolya

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     @kaia And I've lived in Thuringia, I know these stubborn, proud, xenophobic people. I understand that they would vote AfD just to feel righteous and good for sticking it to the man. But feelings are a bad guide in politics, whichever side you're on.

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     kolya (kolya@social.cologne)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 15:09:49 JST kolya

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     @kaia I'm going through a years long phase of disillusionment with leftist politics. I noticed that many people who call themselves leftists are no smarter than anyone in the AfD camp. It's Sturgeon's law at work: 90% of everything is crap, including the left. Although for a long time I didn't notice that. Because I was crap too. I didn't question, I didn't reason thoroughly. I went with what felt right, made me feel righteous and good.

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