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   Dan Gillmor (dangillmor@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 18:31:44 JST Dan Gillmor

   • Nelson Minar

   If you're thinking of using Facebook/Instagram's Twitter clone, here's a reminder of just how invasive it will be of your privacy:

   h/t @nelson

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 02:08:10 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • Colby
     • MettEagle

     @MettEagle @Colby @dangillmor @nelson

     The risks are partly privacy, but also that they will try to take over this network.

     This network's safety depends on people being spread out on many servers (here's why: https://fedi.tips/why-is-the-fediverse-on-so-many-separate-servers/).

     If Meta convinces people to join their server instead, or perhaps starts to make servers here dependent on them, then the safety of the network is compromised.

     Meta's record on privacy and human rights is shameful, please block them. 🙏

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     MettEagle (metteagle@mstdn.science)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 02:08:13 JST MettEagle

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     • Colby

     @Colby @dangillmor @nelson same

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     Colby (colby@mastodon.world)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 02:08:14 JST Colby

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     • Nelson Minar

     @dangillmor @nelson

     I’ve no intentions of joining Meta/Threads but I have questions about their access to us through Mastodon.

     Can we interact safely? What risks do *we* accrue when interacting with Threads users via Mastodon?

     Could our concessions help others target us with disinfo? If so, can we mitigate without blocking all interactions?

     #threads #privacy

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 02:26:08 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • Colby
     • MettEagle

     @MettEagle @Colby @dangillmor @nelson

     I'm guessing Meta's gameplan is this:

     1. Twitter is collapsing

     2, A lot of Twitter people are going to the Fediverse

     3. Meta wants ex-Twitter people on the Fediverse to move onto Threads instead, so it's pretending to be joining the Fediverse as a new type of server

     4. Threads will offer features that aren't available on Mastodon etc.

     5. Once Meta has got people onto Threads, they can ignore the Fediverse

     (aka "Embrace, extend, extinguish")

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 05:43:01 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • MettEagle

     @MettEagle @Colby @dangillmor @nelson

     I think Meta will set up Threads in such a way that people cannot migrate from there to here.

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     MettEagle (metteagle@mstdn.science)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 05:43:02 JST MettEagle

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     @feditips @Colby @dangillmor @nelson im confident ppl will be fed up with zillionaire landlords soon and that #threads could also be the perfect opportunity to get them to becoming independ. So next time #zuckerberg scks they will be more willing and easily able to hop onto an independent instance.

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 07:27:01 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • Bram

     @bram @Colby @dangillmor @MettEagle

     I'm not counting on it :/

     I mean... it would be nice, but I don't think they will ever proactively do the right thing. They have zero track record of doing so.

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     Bram (bram@social.noordstar.me)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 07:27:37 JST Bram

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     @feditips@mstdn.social
     @MettEagle@mstdn.science
     @Colby@mastodon.world
     @dangillmor@mastodon.social #DMA #interoperability #meta #threads
     
     Maybe I'm a bit too optimistic here, but could it be that Meta is aiming to brace for the upcoming DMA?
     
     Given that their largest product (WhatsApp) will likely be heavily affected, perhaps they want to be the first to adapt to interoperability?

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     FediTips has moved! (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 08:38:45 JST FediTips has moved!

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     • Bram

     @bram @Colby @dangillmor @MettEagle

     I'm guessing Gmail would not have been interoperable for very long if email had been an "up and coming" protocol.

     By the time Gmail launched, it was too late for Google to squash email. There were too many entrenched independent email systems in important places like universities, governments, organisations etc.

     We don't have that yet with the Fediverse, though there are the beginnings of it (e.g. @EU_Commission).

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     Bram (bram@social.noordstar.me)'s status on Wednesday, 05-Jul-2023 08:39:00 JST Bram

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     @feditips@mstdn.social
     @MettEagle@mstdn.science
     @Colby@mastodon.world
     @dangillmor@mastodon.social #email #gmail #interoperability #meta
     
     I'm not expecting ethical behaviour either, but interoperability and online market domination can still go hand-in-hand.
     
     Consider how Gmail mostly dominates email even though everyone can still self-host their email instance.