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   Zealist (zealist@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 05:50:56 JST Zealist

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   @p2p_reality @Shadowbroker2135 @Jim i'm suffering right now, i gave up pronz like 2 weeks ago pray for me the struggle is real.
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     Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb: (shadowbroker2135@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 05:50:58 JST Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb:

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     @p2p_reality @Jim As I've said in a different thread, it's not for me but I won't begrudge you for your faith.
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     @Shadowbroker2135 @Jim Jesus made it very clear that believing would entail difficulties. At least you can't call him a liar lol. The Christianity in America makes him out to be a wholesome chungus vending machine for blessings, which is inaccurate. "Carry your cross" -> "Yeah, you gotta suffer". He was either crazy, or God
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     Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb: (shadowbroker2135@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 05:50:59 JST Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb:

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     @p2p_reality @Jim Yeah, he was given a new wife, a new family, doesn't erase the pain of losing the old one. It's fucking evil.
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     @Shadowbroker2135 @Jim The wife stayed the same, I believe. Satan was specifically forbidden from touching the wife lol
     
     And yeah it doesn't, until he sees them again in Heaven. That's a very important part of the whole thing - that the sting of death is significantly reduced
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     Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb: (shadowbroker2135@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 05:51:00 JST Shadowbroker:nv::pondering_orb:

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     @Jim Honestly the story of Job just seems like an argument between two demons.
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     Interpersonal🌌✝ (p2p_reality@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 05:51:00 JST Interpersonal🌌✝

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     @Shadowbroker2135 @Jim The point was to prove that Job loved God for God's sake, not for the stuff he was giving him. To prove Job wasn't a golddigger, essentially lol. You'd agree golddiggers aren't cool.
     Also if you're willing to believe the story, Job has everything restored in the end, so it's alright.
     
     In fact, it could be argued the Eden story is similar. "The tree of knowledge of good and evil" is odd, given that the actual source of all good is right there in the background. The knowledge the tree gave them was the knowledge of good, abstracted from God. There was now a rift between God himself and the stuff he gave them - and only now there existed the question, which one do they love? The temptation satan gave them was "grasp the good things on your own terms, without depending on God, remove him from the picture"
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     Jim (jim@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2023 05:51:01 JST Jim
     You think if they ever write a Bible 2 there will be a follow up to Job. It's just gonna be God holding his head while Satan keeps saying "I fucking told you bro, I fucking told you about those humans. Why didn't you listen bro"