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   Nolan (nolan@toot.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 06:33:01 JST Nolan

   "CommonJS is hurting JavaScript" by Andy Jiang https://deno.com/blog/commonjs-is-hurting-javascript

   The biggest thing holding back CommonJS deprecation in my current projects is Jest. I really have to figure out how to migrate off of it.

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     Nolan (nolan@toot.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 06:35:14 JST Nolan

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     I know they have "experimental" ESM support, but it's been that way forever and just doesn't inspire me with confidence. https://jestjs.io/docs/ecmascript-modules

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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 06:35:14 JST Alex Gleason

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     @nolan Jest is terrible. Probably the most hated part of my stack.
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     Nolan (nolan@toot.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 06:37:59 JST Nolan

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     @alex I gave it a shot, I really did. But the whole "let me handle all your module loading and script transformation and also simulate a whole browser for you, but slowly" just drives me nuts

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     Alex Gleason (alex@gleasonator.com)'s status on Sunday, 02-Jul-2023 06:40:45 JST Alex Gleason

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     @nolan Absolutely. I love Deno because it does none of that, just directly runs (and tests) your TypeScript code.
     
     But there's not a good transpiler for it yet. Running it with Vite is possible but not deeply explored.