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   goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 11:22:50 JST goatsarah

   Apparently before carrot was domesticated, it was almost indistinguishable from hemlock.

   I bet the story of how humanity sorted that one out is wild.

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     goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 11:30:50 JST goatsarah

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     See also: potatoes - early varieties would likely cause death by solanine poisoning, as well as tasting vile.

     Almonds - originally full of cyanide and apparently tasted of bleach.

     Rhubarb - stalk lovely, leaf gives excruciating death by oxalic acid poisoning.

     How desperate and hungry were our ancestors to turn lethal poisons into food crops?

     And it would have saved a lot of bother if they’d never bothered with the gluten grains. Rice deserved better.

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     goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 11:32:22 JST goatsarah

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     Chilli pepper: solanine AND capsaicin. Plant be like, “can you people not take a fucking hint?”
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     Alisdair Calder McGregor (a_c_mcgregor@topspicy.social)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 11:47:10 JST Alisdair Calder McGregor

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     @goatsarah Humanity's collective will to fuck around and find out.

     See also: Fugu

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     goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 11:47:59 JST goatsarah

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     • Yule Infused Sentient Nog
     @sentient_water I’ve grown the purple ones. They are annoying (purple stain doesn’t bloody come off)
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     Yule Infused Sentient Nog (sentient_water@neurodifferent.me)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 11:48:00 JST Yule Infused Sentient Nog

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     @goatsarah Wild carrot still looks like a member of the dropwort family (inc. hemlock) side fact: The reason almost every carrot 🥕 on the planet is orange is because it was bred that way by the Dutch to celebrate their monarch. Before this there were blue & purple carrots too.

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     goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 18:50:09 JST goatsarah

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     • David Honess
     @kincaid @davespice AIUI, that one came from an observation of the effects on goats that ate the plant by a monk who wanted to replicate the effect in humans.
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     David Honess (davespice@mas.to)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 18:50:11 JST David Honess

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     @goatsarah I always wondered how we discovered bread baking actually, it isn't an obvious combination of ingredients right?

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     Kincaid (kincaid@mendeddrum.org)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 18:50:11 JST Kincaid

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     • David Honess

     @davespice @goatsarah coffee...

     A bean you can't eat
     Which you rot to ferment the stone and remove the pulp
     Which you can't eat
     Which you have to roast
     Which you can't eat
     Which you you have to add to boiling water
     Which tastes vile (mmmm coffeeeee) and has zero food value...

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     Susan Lewis (susanlewis@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 18:50:46 JST Susan Lewis

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     @goatsarah don't forget the humble mushroom.

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     goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 18:54:42 JST goatsarah

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     @RenewedRebecca In terms of hemlock, apparently there’s no intoxication: just a horrible death as you lose the ability to breathe, but remain fully aware (it’s a neurotoxin).

     Solanine, it seems can cause hallucinations, but only once you are deep into “oh shit, I’m going to die” territory, and apparently you have to get there via nausea, diarrhoea, muscle cramps, and a whole lot of other fun stuff.

     The latter is one of my main IBS triggers, so I eat potatoes very sparingly.

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     Becky is not a bear (renewedrebecca@oldbytes.space)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 18:54:44 JST Becky is not a bear

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     @goatsarah I wonder how much of the experimentation was because the substances were poisonous and probably gave an intoxicating effect. You know, if you lived through it and all.

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     goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 22:56:14 JST goatsarah

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     • Dan Foster
     @prdan @sentient_water Grew them once. Didn't like how they dyed everything purple forever. Didn't grow them again.
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     Dan Foster (prdan@mastodon.online)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 22:56:15 JST Dan Foster

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     • Yule Infused Sentient Nog

     @sentient_water @goatsarah
     We have purple, white, and orange carrots growing in our garden right now.

     Carrot ginger soup made with just purple carrots is awesome. They have a different flavor than the orange ones.

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     goatsarah (goatsarah@thegoatery.dyndns.org)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 22:57:26 JST goatsarah

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     • Dan Foster

     @alice @sentient_water @prdan I am firmly of the opinion that the orange ones took off because the purple ones were annoying as fuck to work with.

     "Hi! Everything you own is purple now. Kaythxbye"

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     Rev. GothAlice (alice@marrow.haus)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 22:57:28 JST Rev. GothAlice

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     @prdan @sentient_water @goatsarah :blames William of Orange for the current carrot state of affairs:

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     IanMoore3000 (ianmoore3000@mastodon.ie)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Jun-2023 01:56:04 JST IanMoore3000

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     @goatsarah I recall Guns Germs & Steel mentioning that not being poisonous in almonds is a recessive genetic characteristic, then speculating that some almonds being non poisonous might have been discovered by accident when a naughty child ate almonds and then didn't die.

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