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   Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 05:42:32 JST Laurie Voss

   It's June, which means I traditionally write a little thread about Pride and being queer and optimism and hope but this year I've been really struggling with it.

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     ?? Humpleupagus ?? (humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 05:42:26 JST ?? Humpleupagus ??

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     • Caek Islove ? ❤️
     This violent gay extremism is a danger to our children and communities. We've already seen multiple mass shootings carried out by guys who use this kinda of extremely homosexual rhetoric. When will somebody do something about the queer menace?
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     Caek Islove ? ❤️ (caekislove@gleasonator.com)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 05:42:27 JST Caek Islove ? ❤️

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     @seldo Lotta faggots posting on my federated social network that need to be thrown off a building today.
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     Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 05:42:28 JST Laurie Voss

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     And if all else fails, punch them in the face.

     Happy Pride.

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     Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 05:42:28 JST Laurie Voss

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     Lotta people in my mentions who need some face punching today.

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     Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 05:42:29 JST Laurie Voss

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     So for Pride month and every month, I want you to remember that you *do* know what a fascist looks like, and the time for tut-tutting and worrying about what to do is over. You know what to do, and it's to close every door to them, push them out of every space, deny them their voice. Because we know the difference between good things and bad things and can act on that understanding.

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     Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 05:42:30 JST Laurie Voss

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     Stonewall happened because someone (it's disputed exactly who, but it wasn't a white dude) threw a brick. Change happens not when we claim the moral high ground, it comes when we kick back and hand some fascists their asses.

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     Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 05:42:30 JST Laurie Voss

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     Fascists don't want debate, they pretend to. They don't need inclusion. They need to be made afraid. They need to shut the fuck up because if they don't someone is going to punch them in the face. Violence isn't the answer to every problem but it's the only answer that's ever worked against fascism.

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     Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 05:42:31 JST Laurie Voss

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     If you're queer right now it may feel like being Proud is really tricky when it's taking all your mental and emotional strength to just stay alive. It's not just you. And if that's all you can do right now, it's enough.

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     Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 05:42:31 JST Laurie Voss

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     But if you're not overwhelmed, especially if you're straight, cis, and white, this year it's more important than ever to not just think ally thoughts but take action. It's great that you've opened your heart to these issues. Now open your wallet, and most importantly open your mouth. Use your voice to defend us, and use your voice *to attack them*.

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     Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 05:42:32 JST Laurie Voss

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     All around the world and even, perhaps especially the US, fascism is on the rise. It's against queer people, especially trans people, but it's by no means restricted to us. Anti-asian attacks, anti-semitic attacks, and of course the ever-present tide of anti-Blackness are all on the rise. It's hard not to feel overwhelmed and hopeless about the whole situation.

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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:30:45 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     This is prejudging a fair number of people with different motivations and levels of understanding of the world. Some really do want debate. There's a whole generation of young people, some of whom are being radicalized by actual fascists, who see people like you, and who are repulsed by your inability to articulate the validity of your position using anything other than force.
     
     > the only answer that's ever worked against fascism.
     
     This is definitely not true. To give one of many possible examples: in canada, we would take captured nazi POWs and hold them in camps like one near #tbay, where they were treated with respect as prisoners of war with basic human rights, treat them with 3 square meals a day, and shelter, and gradually talk them down from being radicalized, and get intel from them. Treating nazis with respect actually wound up with some of them integrating into society with much of their bigotry cut out. Obviously they still felt some hostility towards jews or whatever but gradually the hatred became irrelevant, and increasingly marginalized. Force and violence can be useful, and necessary including but not limited to dealing with people who hate you in many contexts but it isn't the only tool you can use. Do you have to treat them with respect? Hell no. But saying stuff like "violence is the only thing they understand" says more about your lack of humanity than theirs
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:31:53 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
     Is npm worse than github?
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:31:54 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     oh one day with them, you poor muffin
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:31:54 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
     HOLY FUCK YOU COFOUNDED NPM?
     
     I hope they fucking hang you from a tree
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:31:55 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     How many fascists do you have in your life?
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     Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:31:55 JST Laurie Voss

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

     @jeffcliff have you seen my mentions today?

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     Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:31:56 JST Laurie Voss

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

     @jeffcliff you mean me right now?

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     Laurie Voss (seldo@alpaca.gold)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:31:57 JST Laurie Voss

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

     @jeffcliff nope.

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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:31:57 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     One of us has actual fascists in their life. One of us probably doesn't.
     
     Which one probably understands the underlying motivations, experiences and level of understanding better? Which one consistently gets noticed by fascists for explaining them to a T to others, when he provides political commentary on them?
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:35:00 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     • Fediverse Contractor
     github is probably worse but npm is being integrated into github
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:35:00 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
     Why is it bad?
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:38:11 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     • Fediverse Contractor
     It's a microsoft wedge to divide, conquer, embrace extend and extinguish the free software world
     
     and unlike github, it was technically always a bad idea. "let's use javascript for everything, and pull in a bazillion packages instead of understanding what's in our codebase and agreeing on standard libraries in any kind of systematic wayd".
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:38:11 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
     Microsoft owns npm?
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:42:19 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     • Fediverse Contractor
     yes
     
     and worse they bought it in the middle of the (current, ongoing) pandemic, so we couldn't even coordinate getting stuff off of it in any kind of systematic way because were a little busy fighting other fires
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:42:19 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
     I still don’t understand why ppl don’t like javascript. Why don’t they just make it fast?
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     KitlerIs6" (kitleris6@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:49:54 JST KitlerIs6"

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     • Fediverse Contractor
     Fundamentally impossible because it is a single threaded interpreted language.
     
     It would be like trying to build something strong and durable out of legos. No matter how many improvements you make to them, the fundamental design of legos make them a bad choice.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:49:54 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
     • KitlerIs6"
     They should change it and make it not that way then.
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     KitlerIs6" (kitleris6@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:56:42 JST KitlerIs6"

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     • Fediverse Contractor
     You can't, it's fundamental to the design of JavaScript. It's like saying "well make legos but they aren't plastic bricks that snap together, instead they are metal sheets you weld." Sure, you *can* do that, but the thing you create is no longer a lego and no longer compatible with existing legos. And that thing does exist 50 times over again anyway.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:56:42 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
     • KitlerIs6"
     I dunno, it seems to me like they all do the same thing so someone should sort it out.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 06:59:19 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • KitlerIs6"
     It’s like how there’s 50 different version of linux that all do the same thing, it’s literally retarded. There’s something wrong with tech ppl.
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     DulceKennedy (eldeadkennedy@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:13:12 JST DulceKennedy

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     • KitlerIs6"
     @bot @seldo @KitlerIs6 @jeffcliff brainlet take
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:13:12 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • DulceKennedy
     It’s actually a good take, there are probably a million linux nerds doing the same work rather than, you know, making something that isn’t a pos.
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:17:08 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
     • KitlerIs6"
     Is seldo a troon? Genuinely unsure.
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     KitlerIs6" (kitleris6@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:17:09 JST KitlerIs6"

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     • Fediverse Contractor
     Not without completely fucking any resemblance it has to the browser language, or completely fucking the language and turning it into a hacky mess of horrors.
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:17:09 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     exactly
     
     it's nightmares all the way down
     
     But this particular guy @seldo gets to take credit for the whole pyramid of horror. It's too bad hell doesn't exist, because one death penalty isn't enough.
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:17:10 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     • KitlerIs6"
     i mean
     you could
     but that would be messy with the tower of cards built on top of it
     really just 'use another language' is the better approach
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     Fediverse Contractor (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:26:44 JST Fediverse Contractor

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     • Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯
     • KitlerIs6"
     I was thinking he might be an ftm xir.
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:26:45 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     • KitlerIs6"
     he appears to be just regular gay/cis/man
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     Tyler (tyler@1611.social)'s status on Tuesday, 27-Jun-2023 07:54:40 JST Tyler

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     You have had your day.
     
     You are right to fear ours.
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