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   hankg (hankg@friendica.myportal.social)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jun-2023 22:18:07 JST hankg
   It is pretty interesting watching the Computer Chronicles roll out coverage of the original WindowsNT in 1993. It makes me want to fire up a VM and play with it and/or Windows 3.11 again for some UI nostalgia. It is interesting seeing all the features we've gotten used to in Windows with the modern interface but using the Windows 3.1 style interface. One interesting tidbit which I didn't realize until last week was that NT supported symmetric multiprocessing (SMP) from the original release on. Meanwhile when Apple acquired NeXT in 1997 NeXTSTEP still did not support SMP. My first foray into WindowsNT didn't come until the late-1990s when our engineering labs were equipped with computers running NT 4.0 but none of them had multiple processors. I wouldn't get my first multiprocessor machine until the early-2000s when I was attempting to parallelize algorithms for the software company I then worked in...running WindowsXP by then. #ComputerHistory #ComputerChronicles #Windows #WindowsNT
   The Computer Chronicles - Windows NT (1993)
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jun-2023 22:18:02 JST feld

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     • gme / BOFH ?? ??
     Sadly Perl is no longer part of the OS
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     gme / BOFH ?? ?? (gme@bofh.social)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jun-2023 22:18:03 JST gme / BOFH ?? ??

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     @hankg Nothing like going through a FreeBSD kernel.conf file and compiling your first FreeBSD kernel for the first time.

     That and compiling Perl from source. I loved compiling Perl from source.

     God I miss that.

     Fun times!

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     hankg (hankg@friendica.myportal.social)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jun-2023 22:18:04 JST hankg

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     @gme I never had a problem with the Windows 3.1 interface. I did hate the lack of protected memory though, followed far behind by the lack of preemptive multiprocessing. I had some sort of UI enhancer too, not Norton Desktop, that got me close enough to some of the aspects of the new Chicago interface that was going to first be used in WIndows95. But as soon as Windows95 was available without waiting in long lines I got it and installed it. It still didn't cut it for me though so eventually I ended up having a dual boot configuration with Windows for my needed Windows apps and FreeBSD for as much as I could do in there.
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     gme / BOFH ?? ?? (gme@bofh.social)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jun-2023 22:18:06 JST gme / BOFH ?? ??

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     @hankg I was the last person in my office to “upgrade” to Windows 95. My WFWG 3.11 with Norton Desktop was the epitome of form and functionality. I still have yet to come across a comparable desktop environment since.

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jun-2023 22:18:58 JST feld

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     • gme / BOFH ?? ??
     > Dart/Flutter, stack doesn't support it at all.
     
     It would work but Google has explicitly rejected patches provided for Dart to run on BSDs
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     hankg (hankg@friendica.myportal.social)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jun-2023 22:18:59 JST hankg

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     @gme I dabble with some of their Desktop friendly variants based on FreeBSD from time to time in VMs. Nothing is compelling enough to get me off Linux for my standard OS. Worse is that my standard development, Dart/Flutter, stack doesn't support it at all. :(
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     gme / BOFH ?? ?? (gme@bofh.social)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jun-2023 22:19:00 JST gme / BOFH ?? ??

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     @hankg I love FreeBSD but sadly it’s been 10+ years since I last booted it. pfSense doesn’t count (to me) since I only ran pfSense as a “black box” deployment. But Linux has just become so ubiquitous, and now with WSL2 in Windows 11 I have a full Linux desktop environment that just works.

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     hankg (hankg@friendica.myportal.social)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jun-2023 22:19:02 JST hankg

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     @gme I would have preferred going with Linux but I couldn't get any of the Linux distros to work with my motherboard so FreeBSD it was :)
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jun-2023 23:01:02 JST feld

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     its there by default 🤩
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     gme / BOFH ?? ?? (gme@bofh.social)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jun-2023 23:01:03 JST gme / BOFH ?? ??

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     @feld @hankg Isn’t there a Linux/ ELF compatibility layer that can be compiled into the kernel though?

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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jun-2023 23:06:41 JST feld

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     As I recall the Dart one was "we don't have the resources to support it and we won't allow the community to support it -- Linux, Mac and Win only"
     
     It was Chrome that they were rejecting changes for a time because they didn't like some of the implementation. I believe Chrome stuff is mostly upstreamed now
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     hankg (hankg@friendica.myportal.social)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jun-2023 23:06:42 JST hankg

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     @feld @gme It has been a while since I looked at the controversy but it didn't seem like a "we won't accept these changes to support BSD" it was more problems with the changes. The big thing they said they wouldn't support, which is understandable but disappointing, is BSD as an official platform. I may be misremembering.
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     feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Sunday, 25-Jun-2023 23:35:44 JST feld

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     https://github.com/dart-lang/sdk/issues/10260