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   mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Friday, 09-Jun-2023 23:56:12 JST mk

   • rimugú

   @rimugu

   bitcoin transactions via the lightning network are pretty private.

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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Saturday, 10-Jun-2023 00:55:23 JST mk

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     • rimugú

     @rimugu

     you didn't understand how the lightning network works.

     it works by onion routing through lightning nodes.

     the tech is borrowed from the tor network.

     only the bitcoin sender knows the whole path. the intermediate routers know one hop before and one hop after.

     ---

     Bolts #04 onion-routing

     "Route blinding is a lightweight technique to provide recipient anonymity."

     https://github.com/lightning/bolts/blob/master/04-onion-routing.md

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     rimugú (rimugu@liberdon.com)'s status on Saturday, 10-Jun-2023 00:55:24 JST rimugú

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     @mk
     Pretty much anything is more private than plain bitcoin.

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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Saturday, 10-Jun-2023 00:59:44 JST mk

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     • rimugú

     @rimugu

     its not that complicated receive and send bitcoin anonymously.

     1. open "https://legend.lnbits.com/wallet" in a tor browser.
     2. anonymously buy bitcoin with cash from a trader in the street

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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Saturday, 10-Jun-2023 01:02:09 JST mk

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     • rimugú

     @rimugu

     if you want to run everything yourself, use my 10min guide (times for downloading, file-extraction, btc mainnetsync are not counted)

     make sure to use "docker.compose.yml.darknet" and not the one i use in the video

     https://mastodon.satoshishop.de/@mk/109808309617912905

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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Saturday, 10-Jun-2023 01:06:19 JST mk

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     • rimugú

     @rimugu

     i you receive bitcoin illegaly, you can always just

     1. open a lightning payment channel to any random node and

     2. deposit the funds in your bitfinex (or any other trader that accepts bitcoin via lightning)

     3. convert within bitfinex to onchain bitcoin

     4. withdraw btc with fresh utxo

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     rimugú (rimugu@liberdon.com)'s status on Saturday, 10-Jun-2023 01:06:20 JST rimugú

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     @mk
     And if that bitcoin (not fungible) was tainted for any reason, you all your transactions going on will be forever tainted.

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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Saturday, 10-Jun-2023 01:36:49 JST mk

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     • rimugú

     @rimugu

     let me ask you something. do you know how to push a raw swift transaction into the swift network to facilitate international trade?

     no?.what? why the f would i need to know?

     exactly ! you don't fucking need to know how that works ! because there're banks doing to complicated stuff for you.

     you just have a bank account and give (lend) them you money...

     here's a two step way to interact with the bitcoin lightning network.

     https://mastodon.satoshishop.de/@mk/110515085734245007

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     rimugú (rimugu@liberdon.com)'s status on Saturday, 10-Jun-2023 01:36:50 JST rimugú

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     @mk
     "Its not that complicated"?!?!?!

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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Saturday, 10-Jun-2023 01:38:46 JST mk

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     • rimugú

     @rimugu

     these 4 steps are for criminals that try to hide bitcoin utxos that they received through illegal means.

     to normal dude doesn't need to know anything about utxos washing.

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     rimugú (rimugu@liberdon.com)'s status on Saturday, 10-Jun-2023 01:38:47 JST rimugú

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     @mk
     Two step? But you just listed 4!

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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Saturday, 10-Jun-2023 01:39:44 JST mk

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     • rimugú

     @rimugu

     if you're a criminal and you're caught, because you're too lazy to do propper opsec, you deserve to be locked up.

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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Saturday, 10-Jun-2023 01:41:02 JST mk

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     • rimugú

     @rimugu

     then just use this very complicated 2 step guide and send/receive anonymously through the lightning network.

     https://mastodon.satoshishop.de/@mk/110515085734245007

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     rimugú (rimugu@liberdon.com)'s status on Saturday, 10-Jun-2023 01:41:03 JST rimugú

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     @mk
     Normal dudes do care that their transactions don't become public knowledge.

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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Saturday, 10-Jun-2023 01:43:26 JST mk

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     • rimugú

     @rimugu

     and if you need more comfort (fiat conversions for example) you can very easily import the lnbits account into your bluewallet android/ios app like this: https://peertube.satoshishop.de/w/dkvr8u5LM5Zs8j2mYZug4U?start=3m6s

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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Saturday, 10-Jun-2023 01:47:43 JST mk

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     • rimugú

     @rimugu

     no. you didn't get anything.

     "So bitcoin itself is useless without additional 2 step guides"

     i told you the easiest way to make anonymous bitcoin transactions.

     https://mastodon.satoshishop.de/@mk/110515085734245007

     if you're too retarded to follow this 2 step you, bitcoin isn't for you.

     have a nice day.

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     rimugú (rimugu@liberdon.com)'s status on Saturday, 10-Jun-2023 01:47:45 JST rimugú

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     @mk
     So bitcoin itself is useless without additional 2 step guides that is using a specific wallet, know what tor (or onion routing) is and hope there are no leaks on the way, including the seller does not sell tainted but legal bitcoin. Got it.