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   feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Sunday, 04-Jun-2023 09:07:43 JST feld

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   • leighelse{}
   Well, I think he's wrong on many points.
   
   Agree:
   
   - Cars and many things are not built to last. They should be more repairable, and even upgradable. Require parts be available to customers for 25 years and you'll probably start seeing some work invested to modern modular platforms that you know you can build upon for decades. This will also require some compromise for crash safety standards in the near term, but I digress.
   
   - We should transform society so we use cars less.
   
   Disagree:
   
   - The batteries aren't junk in a short period of time. He must not be following the latest battery developments. He's also presumably not aware that the batteries after being used in cars are perfect for being converted to storage as they'll have like 80% of their capacity yet -- which wouldn't require some crazy or dangerous aftermarket modification, and are safe to use -- or how good the recycling of Lithium-Ion batteries is.
   
   - Transforming infrastructure to reduce the use of cars also has a huge carbon footprint and financial cost which he's completely ignoring.
   
   - Hydrogen cars will be abandoned after the first explosion for any reason whatsoever. It's just reality. People are going to freak out. Also hydrogen basically replicates the "big evil rich oil companies" experience and that's a hard sell when people are charging their cars right now off grid with a large solar installation (expensive, but quickly dropping). Why would anyone want that experience? Are we going to get our own hydrogen pumping stations at home?
   
   - I also think we will replace the current battery design with supercapacitors too
   
   Everything's gonna be alright.
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     swansinflight :antiverified: (swansinflight@mastodon.nz)'s status on Sunday, 04-Jun-2023 09:07:44 JST swansinflight :antiverified:

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     • leighelse{}

     @leighelse EV people don't seem to like these things being pointed out.

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     leighelse{} (leighelse@mastodon.nz)'s status on Sunday, 04-Jun-2023 09:07:45 JST leighelse{}

     Rowan Atkinson discusses the trade-offs between internal combustion and electric vehicles. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/03/electric-vehicles-early-adopter-petrol-car-ev-environment-rowan-atkinson