Conversation

Notices

1. Embed this notice
   I moved to Mastodon.social (teri_kanefield@law-and-politics.online)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 09:29:11 JST I moved to Mastodon.social

   I guess this week the news is all about Trump's lawyers.

   This, all by itself, is nuts. I mean, just not normal.

   "Trump lawyer Jim Trusty’s frustrations with the legal team emerged over dinner at the five-star Breakers hotel hours after the special master hearing. He was overheard by a guardian
   reporter who happened to be sitting at the table next to them."

   https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/01/trump-lawyers-resign-criminal-investigation

   While it's normal for defense lawyers to talk to prosecutors . . .

   1/

   • clacke likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     Sune Auken (suneauken@mastodon.world)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 09:29:30 JST Sune Auken

     in reply to

     @Teri_Kanefield

     Someone, I think it may have been you, seems to have installed in me the conviction that with Trump you're always the fall guy it's just a question of when your fall is coming.

     This, obviously, is quite worrisome, when there's a f...ton to take the fall for.

     clacke likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     I moved to Mastodon.social (teri_kanefield@law-and-politics.online)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 09:29:31 JST I moved to Mastodon.social

     in reply to

     I've characterized the infighting as a division between acting like this is a normal case and offering Trump a normal defense, or considering Trump's political needs, which are opposed to his legal needs.

     Another thing seems to be going on: You have to worry you're the fall guy. You have to worry about what the others are saying.

     There are legal issues that come into play when a lawyer has to be a witness against a client . . .

     3/

     clacke likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     I moved to Mastodon.social (teri_kanefield@law-and-politics.online)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 09:29:32 JST I moved to Mastodon.social

     in reply to

     . . . we have something else going on.

     Defense lawyers and prosecutors talk the way opposing counsel in civil cases talk, with a big difference: There is a power imbalance: The prosecutor has the power.

     But the defense lawyers are not normally witnesses. They are not "interviewed" and they don't testify.

     Parlatore Alina Habba and Christina Bobb testified to the grand jury.

     Evan Corcoran was ordered to testify.

     Epshteyn was "interviewed" by the special counsel.

     2/

   • Embed this notice
     CrazyMyra (outonthemoors@beige.party)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 09:29:34 JST CrazyMyra

     in reply to

     @Teri_Kanefield Wait, wait ... Trump has a lawyer called Trusty? 😳

     clacke likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     ᴚ uɐᗡ (dannotdaniel@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 09:29:35 JST ᴚ uɐᗡ

     in reply to

     @Teri_Kanefield

     Making
     Attorneys
     Get
     Attorneys

     I know it's not new, but it's become norm

     clacke likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     I moved to Mastodon.social (teri_kanefield@law-and-politics.online)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 09:29:37 JST I moved to Mastodon.social

     in reply to

     But just consider the dynamics of the situation: One lawyer didn't do a complete search and had another lawyer sign an affidavit that the search was compete "as far as she knows."

     Plus you know that Trump sets people against each other and demands "loyalty" and expects other to take the fall.

     You could almost have a situation where the defense lawyers are all co-conspirators.

     My mind just exploded so I have to go think this over.

     Me: 🤔 💥

     4/

     clacke likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     I moved to Mastodon.social (teri_kanefield@law-and-politics.online)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 09:29:38 JST I moved to Mastodon.social

     in reply to

     • LGsMom

     @LGsMom

     I don't believe we know.

     I have wondered how that conversation went down.

     clacke likes this.
   • Embed this notice
     LGsMom (lgsmom@toad.social)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 09:29:44 JST LGsMom

     in reply to

     @Teri_Kanefield Has anyone said how Habba came to be the person who signed that affidavit? Why didn’t Corcoran sign his own affidavit with CYA language?