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   chjara (chjara@snowdin.town)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 05:19:16 JST chjara
   where does the meme of france surrendering come from. france repeatedly kicked everyone's ass for most of european history and then also won ww1 and (the resistance) was instrumental in winning ww2
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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 05:24:04 JST kaia

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     dunno, I only ever heard it among younger Germans. older Germans think that of Italians
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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 05:25:38 JST kaia

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     @chjara also I heard that post-WW2 French were more angry at the US for destroying France when re-taking that. is that true?
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     chjara (chjara@snowdin.town)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 05:25:39 JST chjara

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     @kaia italians win because when they're on the losing side they just switch 🥴
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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 05:26:38 JST Tosti ?

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     @kaia@brotka.st @chjara@snowdin.town this is only the surface of how much france hated (and still hates, but differently) the US --helene

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     Cleisthenes (cleisthenes@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 05:26:56 JST Cleisthenes

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     @chjara 1871 Franco-Prussian War
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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 05:27:02 JST Tosti ?

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     @kaia@brotka.st @chjara@snowdin.town Charles de Gaulle was known to have absolute hatred of the USA --helene

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     kaia (kaia@brotka.st)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 05:27:25 JST kaia

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     @tost @chjara he was a very smart man :aismug:
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     Tosti ? (tost@mk.toast.cafe)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 05:29:57 JST Tosti ?

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     @kaia@brotka.st @chjara@snowdin.town he also ran referendums for some questions and resigned if it didn't match what he wanted
     he's also one of, if not the main factor of mai 68's start
     very messy stuff --helene

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     mdn (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 14:56:38 JST mdn

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     @kaia @chjara
     According to my grandfather, there was more issues in his city when Americans arrived than when the Germans occupied, humanly speaking the Germans treated civilians better than Americans as he told me. Lots of important buildings in the city were destroyed by US bombardment too, like the tram in the tram hangar which were never rebuilt. But he noted that awful stuff happened sporadically notably the day he witnessed a child getting shot because he played with a fake gun.
     Funny it is that in france people were allowed to posses gun more freely than today, the laws of the third Reich on that were never completely abolished.
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     mdn (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 14:57:03 JST mdn

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     @tost @kaia @chjara He was right, it's notably thank to him that no US military base were able to stay on French soil.
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