Aral Balkan
Elon Musk is launching the presidential campaign of Ron DeSantis, the man working to make The Handmaid’s Tale a reality in the US.
At least the Germans had guns to their heads if they opposed the Nazis. What exactly is your excuse for continuing to support this man and his social network?
Bindestrich
@aral the danger to one's life is a legend Germans told afterward as an excuse. Esp during the beginning. The Problem was, and the Problem is: many people follow willingly
Kaiyalai
@aral I don’t know if you count ‘supporting’ as paying for Blue (which, ick, no) or just using the hellsite.
I still use it because I have community there. Trans community. Furry community. Neurodivergent community. Personal relationship community.
I cannot make them all move, less so move to the same new home, and cannot bring myself to abandon them.
Earthworm
To be fair, in Germany at the equivalent point in late 1920s-early 1930s, there were not yet the guns pointing at our (great-)grandparents heads (besides some SA street violence, fascists had still not seized political power).
The crazy thing is that the playbook is so surprisingly similar.
Until some months ago, I was arguing (also here on Mastodon) against labeling these people as fascists.
But 'fascists is as fascist does'.
And the playbook is so obvious. 😢
Additionally, we can observe in realtime how powerhungry politicians promote fascists-friendly discourses and, when their bases sucked in the ideas, get replaced by guys that really believe the stuff.
I hope always that in thr US it turns out like in Italy, where a fascist leader, once in charge, does only marginally more inhumane politics than their liberal-conservative counterparts (tells a lot about the so-called lesser evil parties...).
And it's always the bystanders. The media that want to be neutral and give endless hours of screentime to fascist ideas and concerns. The conservative liberals that don't want to appear leftist and maintain the system until they dug their own grave.
Be fucking aware. And organize effectively on many levels and with many different circles.
Vote if you must, but don't think that this solves anything substantial.
Take care :anarchoheart3:
clacke
@mikebabcock @aral If nobody goes there to read, the bias of the algorithm has no consequences. If nobody goes there to write, nobody goes there to read. Of course using Twitter is supporting it.
If an individual makes tradeoffs in light of their goals and decides to stay on Twitter, that's one thing, and that's valid, but to say that it doesn't amount to support is just misguided.
Michael T Babcock
@aral what is it with this continued fallacy some people perpetuate that using a network is actively supporting it's owners? As though shopping at specific stores or buying certain products means we support the political views of those millionaires, when in fact most people just want to live their lives in peace.
8petros
TC Won't Give In To Lies
@aral
Musk's purchase of Twitter makes more sense now.
So does his technical changes to allow boosting his personal tweets.
He wants to control the narrative that wins the White House in 2024.
We must abandon Twitter and rebuild our communities on safer sites.
#TwitterMigratíon
clacke
Philip Kreißel
@aral you might have some wrong ideas about how hitler came to power. He was quite popular, as were his ideas.
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@aral Even in Germany, it was a gradually escalating process. That's how fascism takes hold. Slowly. People are threatened and intimidated. Others think it isn't happening or won't happen to them. People also decide not to resist because of intimidation. They don't have to use guns. Their lackeys do their dirty work
clacke
Nafnlaus 🇮🇸 🇺🇦
@aral Handmaid's Tale and Nazis are a pretty mixed metaphor.
clacke
@nafnlaus @aral They are not the same, but they are not unrelated. "Aryan" women were supposed to be ovens for baking the next generation of "pure" soldiers.
Fascism is about the subservience of the individual to the state, whether the dominant tool is racism, sexism or class war.
Nafnlaus 🇮🇸 🇺🇦
@clacke @aral um, no. It's abour religious extremism vs. extreme racism. Nazi Germany wasn't anything like The Handmaid's Tale. Hitler wasn't even very religious (though the Nazis had sort of an alliance with the Catholic church.. though also dabbled in paganism). And contrarily, The Handmaid's Tale wasn't about a conspiracy that Jews are a mind virus causing races to ignore interests essential to their survival in an upcoming resource panic.
clacke
@nafnlaus If you believe the Nazi breeding programs were simply about "encouraging" women, then there isn't much more to say.
Nafnlaus 🇮🇸 🇺🇦
@clacke @aral They were not forced into it.
If to you the essence of Naziism and The Handmaid's Tale is both "Women are encouraged to raise large families", then you have no clue about either of them (but *especially * Naziism*).
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@clacke @aral And even then, there were prominent single women. For example, though she eventually married (briefly) in 1944, the single Leni Riefenstahl was the most famous film propagandist of the Nazi regime, directing such infamous films as The Triumph of Will. Or for a more extreme example, the youngest woman to ever be executed under British law was Irma Grese, a brutal and sadistic Auschwitz guard, sentenced to death at the Belsen trial.
clacke
Nafnlaus 🇮🇸 🇺🇦
@clacke @aral Okay, if a person ***actually accepts facts*** then there isn't much more to say indeed.
Nazis were NOT mass forcing women to have children. Any assertion otherwise is 100% ahistorical. They encouraged women to marry with propaganda, awards (such as the Mother's Cross), social organizations (such as NS-Frauenschaft), etc. And even still, women worked - just in "traditional feminine jobs" (nurses, teachers, secretaries, etc).
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