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   clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 19:12:55 JST clacke
   Had some decongestant that had paracetamol in it. Wow, neither acetylic salicylic acid nor ibuprofen make me this drowsy.
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Wednesday, 24-May-2023 21:51:20 JST clacke

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     Noticed my accent become more American (before I took the pills). Apparently I find that easier on the vocal chords when they're hoarse.
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     LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 25-May-2023 03:52:36 JST LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     @clacke That's the first sign that you're being absorbed. Next thing you know, you'll be listening to country music and shopping for a giant pickup truck.
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 25-May-2023 15:11:12 JST clacke

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     • Thomas

     @tfb I've had chlorophenamine before without drowsiness. But then I've had paracetamol without drowsiness too.

     Already tired as I stayed up too long probably contributed. And this morning I discovered I had covid, maybe that contributed too.

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     Thomas (tfb@functional.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 25-May-2023 15:11:13 JST Thomas

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     @clacke I’m willing to bet it’s the non-paracetomol component that makes you drowsy

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 25-May-2023 15:12:14 JST clacke

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     Checked online if acetylsalicylic acid and paracetamol are safe to take together, so that I'm not ruling out my chances at using the decongestant if I take my preferred analgesic.

     For this search it's good to know that acetylsalicylic acid is better known in the US as the brand name Aspirin.

     It's also good to know that the name of paracetamol is acetaminophen in the US and the popular brand name is Tylenol.

     The outcome is that they seem safe (I am not your doctor etc), as there are even approved combined products.

     As always with paracetamol be careful with the liver and with acetylsalicylic acid be careful with the stomach.

     I found one study saying that both plus caffeine is more effective than either one of the three, didn't look closer what dosages they used. That sounds plausible. My analgesic of choice (Treo) has acetylsalicylic acid and caffeine.

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     valhalla (valhalla@social.gl-como.it)'s status on Thursday, 25-May-2023 15:13:28 JST valhalla

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     • Thomas
     @clacke @tfb I've found that paracetamol taken for a toothache will not make me drowsy, paracetamol taken when I'm running a fever will, even when it's the same paracetamol pill.
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     LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1@nu.federati.net)'s status on Thursday, 25-May-2023 16:04:22 JST LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     @clacke I don't know if it still exists, but in USA, Excedrin (brand name) combined aspirin / ASA, acetominophen, caffeine. Claimed to be superior.
     
     Though I've seen medical folks claim that acetominophen's effective dose and its toxic dose are too close together.
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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 25-May-2023 16:07:40 JST clacke

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     @tfb So far it's milder than last year and *knock* *knock* already getting better.
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     Thomas (tfb@functional.cafe)'s status on Thursday, 25-May-2023 16:07:41 JST Thomas

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     @clacke oof, hope the covid passes without major issue

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Thursday, 25-May-2023 16:09:57 JST clacke

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     @lnxw48a1 Yes, acetaminophen/paracetamol basically shouldn't be over the counter, go only a bit over the recommended dose and you're already hurting your liver.

     If ibuprofen ("Advil") works for you, always go for that instead, it's much safer.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 26-May-2023 16:36:04 JST clacke

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     Combining acetylsalicylic acid (ASA) and ibuprofen is a generally bad idea, as their side-effects overlap and the risk stacks, and there are indications that ibuprofen may interfere with the blood-thinning aspect of ASA, if that's what you're taking it for.
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     Elias Mårtenson (loke@functional.cafe)'s status on Friday, 26-May-2023 16:48:07 JST Elias Mårtenson

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     @clacke there is a French product that combines ibuprofen with caffeine. It's quite effective. I haven't seen it here.

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Friday, 26-May-2023 16:51:37 JST clacke

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     @tfb I don't know why they would recommend paracetamol over ibuprofen, maybe just because it has been around longer and has more recognition by habit.

     Alternating sounds like a good idea based on my search results.

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     Thomas (tfb@functional.cafe)'s status on Friday, 26-May-2023 16:51:38 JST Thomas

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     @clacke Doctors here (France) usually recommend paracetamol for fevers, and if it's bad enough that waiting the full 6 to 8 hours between doses is too long, to alternate it with ibuprofen or aspirin

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     Thomas (tfb@functional.cafe)'s status on Friday, 26-May-2023 18:12:27 JST Thomas

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     @clacke Paracetamol is the default here, probably by inertia like you said. But yes, learning that alternating is safe, and means you can have another dose at 3.5-4 hours was fantastic when I was all fever-y with Covid

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