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   Christina Warren (film_girl@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 21-May-2023 19:49:33 JST Christina Warren

   So the new Instagram text thing is reported to have ActivityPub support and instead of being happy at all the new labor that could potentially be coming to the standard, Mastodon people are now actively encouraging instances to not federate with any of that stuff. K.

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     Rui Seabra (ruiseabra@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 21-May-2023 19:49:21 JST Rui Seabra

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     • Jonasnuts
     • Ricardo Lafuente
     • Charlie Fish

     @rlafuente

     Say person A has instance A, and person B is in instance M. Person B mostly enjoys person A, even if sometimes A shares less accepted stuff.

     Admin of M blocks A, and person A is blocked for person B too.

     Without warning, or recourse.

     Person A suddenly dropped out of the universe.

     Only solution is an unmanageable 1-to-1 user/instance.

     Companies are way worse, but Stalin isn't good because there was Hitler.

     This feels very troubling to me.

     @jonasnuts @fishcharlie @film_girl

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     Ricardo Lafuente (rlafuente@post.lurk.org)'s status on Sunday, 21-May-2023 19:49:27 JST Ricardo Lafuente

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     • Jonasnuts
     • Charlie Fish

     @jonasnuts @fishcharlie @film_girl

     As an admin of an instance to whom you've already addressed this critique, there's a few things to say. Your caricature of what admins believe doesn't help any clear debate, so let's clear up a couple of points.

     As a former corporate telco middle manager, you surely respect that a product owner's vision is what drives a project -- not the yells of people who are not using, and clearly will never use, your platform. I can't imagine your former employer suspending an ongoing code sprint because someone is complaining about typos in the ToS.

     I'm constantly surprised to see high expectations towards volunteer initiatives, contrasted with a different, more permissive position towards companies. Things become a lot simpler if, instead of framing instance admins as rulers or governments, one frames them as an executive team (CEO, CTO, etc) and an instance's users as its shareholders.

     As for the clear expectation that admins of instances that you're not a part of should somehow reflect your idea of what the fediverse ought to become, constant provocation seems like a futile effort. One can set up an instance for 5€/mo, it's really a matter of putting your money where your mouth is -- I would be interested to see what kind of rules and terms you have in mind to address your concerns.

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     Jonasnuts (jonasnuts@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 21-May-2023 19:49:28 JST Jonasnuts

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     • Charlie Fish

     @fishcharlie Ah! The lack of transparency, mostly with smaller servers, is what annoys me the most, here. And the fact that, when confronted, they don’t acknowledge that and they keep shouting “this is a safe place”, and “my house, my rules and if I wake up in a bad mood, deal with it and you’re free to change servers”. What little tyrants they are. (Complaining about space Karen, along the way :-) @film_girl

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     Charlie Fish (fishcharlie@mstdn-social.com)'s status on Sunday, 21-May-2023 19:49:32 JST Charlie Fish

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     @film_girl My biggest problem with this is a lot of admins are de-federating servers without providing evidence of a legitimate rule that the server violated. Every admin should define consistent rules for their server, and enforce those rules (and only those rules).

     The lack of transparency and lack of following their own stated rules, is the disappointing part.

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     Christina Warren (film_girl@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 21-May-2023 19:49:33 JST Christina Warren

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     Look, instance admins can block whatever they want for any reason they want. It hurts your users but do you. And I'm not trying to argue that Facebook isn't a fucked up company. But actively working to discourage extremely skilled participants (and love them for hate them, FB engineers are VERY good) from contributing or associating with your open source protocol or community is just peak stupidity for people who claim in the same breath to want to remake and reset the social web.