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   sofia ☮️🏴 (sofia@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 19-May-2023 01:26:35 JST sofia ☮️🏴

   remember: when you sleep and you see pictures, those pictures are a COLLAGE of OTHER PEOPLE'S WORK. you STOLE their work and they starve because of you.

   yours truly,
   Concerned Citizens Against Imagination and "Not Copyright Cops"™

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     sofia ☮️🏴 (sofia@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 19-May-2023 01:26:31 JST sofia ☮️🏴

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     • :lappland_happy:anakita :lappland_hug_pillow:

     @anakita yeah it's not stealing in any case. nobody loses anything and so on…

     but calling what generative AI "a collage" is also complete nonsense in the technical sense…

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     :lappland_happy:anakita :lappland_hug_pillow: (anakita@snowdin.town)'s status on Friday, 19-May-2023 01:26:32 JST :lappland_happy:anakita :lappland_hug_pillow:

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     @sofia I think it isnt about "someone else's work" in entirety, I think it's a lot of "how easy is it", and by it I mean stealing
     
     
     (also collage is not stealing art, fight me)
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Friday, 19-May-2023 01:27:20 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     @sofia turns out everybody loves the power of the state to punch others for wrongthink as long as it helps their bottom line (for values of 'everybody' that are not quite 1)
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     sofia ☮️🏴 (sofia@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 19-May-2023 01:43:36 JST sofia ☮️🏴

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     • on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

     @lain or what they think their bottom line is, anyway… there's a lot of "class interest" thinking at work, i think.

     but it's kinda blatant at times "of course _artists_ should have access to AI tools!", and suddenly the inspiration from other people's work doesn't seem to be in the equation anymore. i sure hope i'll qualify for an artist license in time or the'll steal all my pencils 😬.

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     sofia ☮️🏴 (sofia@chaos.social)'s status on Friday, 19-May-2023 22:01:56 JST sofia ☮️🏴

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     • :lappland_happy:anakita :lappland_hug_pillow:

     @anakita what is what in an sense? are you saying training generative models is stealing. not that stealing is always a bad thing…

     as for "AI being BS", well in the last two years or so transformers alone basically mastered natural language understanding, translation, speech recognition and synthesis, and they're making pretty big leaps in terms of common sense, reasoning, and expert domain understanding.

     you think that stuff is gonna slow down? whatcha betting 😏?

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     :lappland_happy:anakita :lappland_hug_pillow: (anakita@snowdin.town)'s status on Friday, 19-May-2023 22:01:58 JST :lappland_happy:anakita :lappland_hug_pillow:

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     @sofia it is in any sense
     
     AI is (mostly) BS in both pro and anti ways soooooo
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     on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ (lain@lain.com)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 18:34:53 JST on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

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     • Murilo
     @sofia @murilove it means 'an evil company did it'
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     sofia ☮️🏴 (sofia@chaos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 18:34:55 JST sofia ☮️🏴

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     • Murilo

     @murilove i don't think much of the data is stolen. probably some of it comes from government surveillance or something, but most of it was published to be publicly accessible.

     there seems to be some outrage about scraping public data which i seems super bizarre to me. downloading files is pretty much how the entire web works since forever.

     but yeah, i guess i'm not sure what exactly you mean by stealing here… sorry if it feels like i'm being obtuse.

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     Murilo (murilove@sunbeam.city)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 18:35:03 JST Murilo

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     @sofia Woah, did you just compare dreaming with generating images with a neural network trained by evil corp? That's a dangerous stretch, don't you think?

     I agree with throwing rocks at copyright cops and everything is a remix, but the way I read it felt like a suggestion that AI is not actually stealing data, which is concerning.

     Feels like comparing planting the seeds from the fruit you ate with large scale mono-culture of transgenic seeds. 👀

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     sofia ☮️🏴 (sofia@chaos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 18:36:44 JST sofia ☮️🏴

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     • on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
     • Murilo

     @lain please don't jump to conclusions.

     @murilove

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     sofia ☮️🏴 (sofia@chaos.social)'s status on Wednesday, 13-Dec-2023 20:14:27 JST sofia ☮️🏴

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     • on-lain ✔ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ
     • Murilo

     @lain i guess you called it, though 😅.

     @murilove

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