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These feel relevant after the mornings events
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WAT HAPPEN
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Just a giant hell thread about feds
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Didn't it turn into a saved thread?
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There were some very good takes
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Sure that's an argument, but it's also weird how Biden has a speech about the dangers of "White Supremacy" then literally an hour later they're marching around.
Ain't saying they are Feds, but they're being yanked around by somebody
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Given how you have to get permits for marches in advance combined with the fact that Biden is always talking about muh whyte domestic terrorism I lean toward events just lining up. If you have info about them being compromised Im down to give it a fair read
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Im not the most informed on PF so I couldnt tell you what they have been up to outside of their occasional marches or community service they have shown up to do. I think its fair to question when large groups of reasonably in shape, well dressed men come together at an event. Im mostly just poking fun at the fact that alot of people will constantly talk about real world organizing but completely reject it any time its presented to them. Particularly when large numbers of the people that are most vocal about it have typical been sideline do nothing conservative types on twitter who just lement that they are losing more each year while no one else does anything.
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I don't know anymore than anyone else, just going off the smell test and gut reaction. I think it's extremely coping and dismissive to boil it down to "SKINNY PERSON=FED". The two pillars of this are its an extremely common Fed tactic to vaguely emulate what they think Right wingers look like and to also stick out like sore thumbs at the most visible and opportune time. Secondly, it also goes against most common logic at the time on activism that going out there and marching in masks and doing some Brookes Brothers Fascism LARP isn't really getting us anywhere vs. quiet organizing.
I've heard about these guys for years but like, what's their platform? What are they actually doing? The only sign of their activity I can even find is just marching and vague protesting.
Feds at worst, LARPers at best
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I think both things can be bad, Do nothing Plan Trusters and Aesthetic Marching LARPers. Ill get roasted for this, but I had the most respect for Proud Boys because despite being LITERALLY Fed infiltrated, they were atleast fun to watch because they'd get out there like football hooligans and beat people up.
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I dont really have an answer for what will work either way. On one hand I dont know how much marches accomplish, but im also not certain that simply accepting that you are permanently locked out of that type of activity is good either. People need to be able to come out and demonstrate “hey our group exists” to a larger audience or you are ultimately just left with a bunch of spicy chat rooms or forums. I dont think PF is going to end up being some major political player, but its also completely necessary for organizations to create awareness and space that future groups will use. Federal infiltration to some extent is inevitable, just look at any domestic group the US has ever deemed politically dangerous. As for paramilitary style brawls with antifa, I have no idea, I thought they did but then I realized I was thinking of patriot prayer out west