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    Rasmus Fleischer (rasmusfleischer@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-May-2023 15:56:59 JST Rasmus Fleischer Rasmus Fleischer

    I don't know if any Western media reported about yesterdays founding of the exile/anti-Russian "Alliance of the #Indigenous Peoples" at a meeting in Istanbul. An organization "aimed at dismantling #Russia and reviving nation-states in their ancestral territories".
    While the visions of participant groups are far from unproblematic, it anyway seems like a significant event given the long list of minorities represented in the alliance. Also it is interesting to note the role of the Russian language for amalgamating anti-Russian sentiment.
    https://t.me/alliance_freedom

    In conversation Wednesday, 10-May-2023 15:56:59 JST from tldr.nettime.org permalink

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      АЛЬЯНС - ALLIANCE
      «АЛЬЯНС» Коренных Народов - формирующаяся в данное время организация, нацеленная на демонтаж россии и возрождение национальных государств на своих исконных территориях
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      Rasmus Fleischer (rasmusfleischer@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-May-2023 16:59:27 JST Rasmus Fleischer Rasmus Fleischer
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      These were the separatist groups signing the press release (written in Russian) from yesterday's conference in Istanbul:

      * World Chechen Congress
      * Caucasian Union
      * Karelian National Movement
      * Chuvash-Volga-Bulgarian Diplomatic Council
      * Government of Tatarstan in exile
      * Council of United Circassia
      * Cossack national liberation movement "Ѣзиковъй Ѣртаул "
      * Kuban Conservative Movement "Січова Братія""
      * Supreme Council of the Nogai People
      * Dagestan National Center
      * Free Bjarmia/Pomorie
      * Pomorska Sloboda
      * International organization "Free Circassia"
      * Public organization "Strong Azerbaijan"
      * Circassian congress
      * Round table - Free Caucasus

      It should be noted that some (but not all) of these groups are far-right or openly racist.

      In conversation Wednesday, 10-May-2023 16:59:27 JST permalink
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      Rasmus Fleischer (rasmusfleischer@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-May-2023 17:34:03 JST Rasmus Fleischer Rasmus Fleischer
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      • Renegade_GDI

      @Renegade_GDI Thanks for the explanation – #Cossack identity seems incredibly complex to me!

      In conversation Wednesday, 10-May-2023 17:34:03 JST permalink
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      renegade_gdi@mastodon.world's status on Wednesday, 10-May-2023 17:34:04 JST Renegade_GDI Renegade_GDI
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      @rasmusfleischer indeed there's two distict cossack groups right in the area north of Circassia, one are Circassian Christians (who considered themselves Ruskiye) and in Kuban the displaced Ukrainain cossacks from dismantled Sich (done by Katharina II's decree). Those at Don would kidnap Circassian women and dress like Adyges so no suprise they'd even call themselves Circassians. The 'Ruskoy' part would be faith, and language too

      In conversation Wednesday, 10-May-2023 17:34:04 JST permalink
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      Rasmus Fleischer (rasmusfleischer@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-May-2023 17:35:21 JST Rasmus Fleischer Rasmus Fleischer
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      This indigenous alliance seems only to include minorities within the Western half of Russian Federation: Karelia, Volga, Ural and Caucasus. The whole of Siberia is absent!

      Still, the list of nationalities encompasses a linguistic diversity of not only Turkic, Finno-Ugric and Caucasian languages but also Slavic dialects close to Ukrainian (Baláchka) or Russian (Pomor).

      In conversation Wednesday, 10-May-2023 17:35:21 JST permalink
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      Rasmus Fleischer (rasmusfleischer@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-May-2023 17:55:06 JST Rasmus Fleischer Rasmus Fleischer
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      • Renegade_GDI

      @Renegade_GDI Yeah, on a very general level i think the formation of these groups must be understood as a kind of opportunistic self-defence against centralized empires and their absurd borders, i.e. in the context of what James C. Scott calls "The Golden Age of Barbarians".

      In conversation Wednesday, 10-May-2023 17:55:06 JST permalink
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      renegade_gdi@mastodon.world's status on Wednesday, 10-May-2023 17:55:08 JST Renegade_GDI Renegade_GDI
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      @rasmusfleischer and what's also in common such gangs get formed at some border regions and most of the time end up employed as rangers. Szekely would protect Ottoman border, and our Cossacks would also get some pay from the crown and quarreled about number of 'registered' rangers who get paid. And sometimes they'd raid Ottomans without order and demand more pay. And demand status of nobility too. It would cause wars

      In conversation Wednesday, 10-May-2023 17:55:08 JST permalink
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      Rasmus Fleischer (rasmusfleischer@tldr.nettime.org)'s status on Wednesday, 10-May-2023 18:33:10 JST Rasmus Fleischer Rasmus Fleischer
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      • don

      @don Indeed, this is a typical post-colonial dynamic.

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      don@liberdon.com's status on Wednesday, 10-May-2023 18:33:11 JST don don
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      @rasmusfleischer former French colonies also use French language to cooperate )

      In conversation Wednesday, 10-May-2023 18:33:11 JST permalink

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