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   Vesna Manojlovic (becha@social.v.st)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 14:03:03 JST Vesna Manojlovic

   What if we invested millions in own (FLOSS / community / public) infrastructure instead of paying Zoom? https://netzpolitik.org/2021/private-infrastruktur-fuer-die-lehre-so-viel-bezahlen-hochschulen-fuer-zoom/

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     Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿 (lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 14:03:22 JST Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿

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     @becha this is what we need. I've been suggesting it here in Aotearoa NZ since before Covid... we've been offering BigBlueButton for all to use since then.

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     Vesna Manojlovic (becha@social.v.st)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 19:01:05 JST Vesna Manojlovic

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     • Matt Panhans

     @lightweight @mpanhans there’s even more than 2 ;) #RIPE & IETF are using MeetEcho : https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/technology/meetecho-guide-participant/ which is FLOSS : https://github.com/meetecho ; we choose it for members meetings because z00m is banned in some countries , & because it scales to large conferences (1k+) & it has pro support.

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     Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿 (lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 19:01:06 JST Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿

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     • Matt Panhans

     @mpanhans @becha we're fortunate that the #FOSS world has created (at least) 2 viable video conferencing platforms. My advocacy for BigBlueButton is based on it being designed for large groups (up to hundreds) - with specific tools making it ideal in an education context - whereas, in my experience, Jitsi is focused on much smaller groups (<10) and without the ed-specific-features... But that impression might no longer be current.

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     Matt Panhans (mpanhans@social.librem.one)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 19:01:12 JST Matt Panhans

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     • Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿

     @lightweight @becha I feel like it’s such an obvious and smart decision. I personally like Jitsi as a zoom replacement but whatever the application it is very clear to me that open source digital infrastructure is this massively under-funded public good

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     Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿 (lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 19:01:19 JST Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿

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     @becha it's obvious that this article hits a nerve in Germany - the "Zoom representative" has struck back quite aggressively, presumably because he feels the need to 'nip this in the bud' because if it gains support, he's out of a job. I, for one, would be quite ok seeing him, in particular, on the unemployment line.

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     Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿 (lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 19:02:19 JST Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿

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     • Ruth Mottram

     @Ruth_Mottram @becha in my (now extensive) experience running BigBlueButton, it's easily as reliable as Zoom & it has *no* client to install (so it's *inherently* more straightforward than Zoom). Just uses a modern browser. Most people who use it with us say "why the hell are people using Zoom?". If you want to try BBB, send me a DM with your email, and I'll send you an invite to use ours (gratis). It'll be equivalent (as I understand it) to 5 organisational Zoom licenses.

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     Ruth Mottram (ruth_mottram@fediscience.org)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 19:02:20 JST Ruth Mottram

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     • Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿

     @lightweight @becha In the early days of the pandemic we experimented with several tools: jitsi, zoom, blue jeans, Google Meet. We ended up with teams 😝 by ministry diktat.
     However Zoom was by far the easiest to use across platforms with no installation issues + multiple users
     I'd prefer to use jitsi by inclination but the platform was not stable enough or perhaps not enough bandwidth? You only need to waste time in a few meetings before everyone asks to use zoom.

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     Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿 (lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 19:02:21 JST Dave Lane :flag_tino: 🇳🇿

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     @becha and it's fascinating to see the university lecturers who spoke in favour of Zoom... I wonder why they'd do that... I wonder if perhaps they receive some sort of reward for doing so. It'd certainly be cheap enough for Zoom to fund it...

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     shgr (shgr@social.tchncs.de)'s status on Tuesday, 09-May-2023 19:02:29 JST shgr

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     • Ruth Mottram

     @lightweight @Ruth_Mottram @becha I had a one week job-related training using BigBlueButton. And it worked flawless for all users all the time.
     So my experience with it is also really positive.

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