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    jbz (jbzfn@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 10:32:44 JST jbz jbz

    「 It’s both surprisingly and dismayingly difficult to get people — especially computerists — to criticize the web and the web browsers — even more so perhaps today.

    This is despite the glaring fact that the interactive media provided by the web and browsers has always been a hefty and qualitative subset of the media on the very personal computers that run the web browsers 」
    — Alan Kay

    #Web #OpenWeb #WebStandards
    https://donhopkins.medium.com/alan-kay-on-should-web-browsers-have-stuck-to-being-document-viewers-and-a-discussion-of-news-5cb92c7b3445

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      Alan Kay on “Should web browsers have stuck to being document viewers?”
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      Alan Kay answered: “Actually quite the opposite, if “document” means an imitation of old static text media (and later including pictures…
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      jbz (jbzfn@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 10:32:43 JST jbz jbz
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      「 The underlying system for a browser should not be that of an “app” but of an Operating System whose job would be to protectively and safely run encapsulated systems (i.e. “real objects”) gotten from the web. It should be the way that web content could be open-ended, and not tied to functional subsets in the browser 」
      — Alan Kay
      #Web #WebStandards

      In conversation Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 10:32:43 JST permalink
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      jbz (jbzfn@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 10:32:43 JST jbz jbz
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      「 what has happened is that a critically weak subset has managed to dominate the imaginations of most people — including computer people — to the point that what is possible and what is needed has for all intents and purposes disappeared 」
      — Alan Kay
      #Web #WebStandards #ModernWeb

      In conversation Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 10:32:43 JST permalink
      Paul Cantrell repeated this.
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      jbz (jbzfn@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 10:32:43 JST jbz jbz
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      「 One of the great realizations of the early Unix was that the *kernel* of an OS — and essentially the only part that should be in “supervisor mode” — would only manage time (quanta for interleaved computations) and space (memory allocation and levels) and encapsulation (processes) — everything else should be expressible in the general vanilla processes of the system 」
      — Alan Kay
      #Unix #Web #WebStandards #ModernWeb

      In conversation Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 10:32:43 JST permalink
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      jbz (jbzfn@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 10:32:44 JST jbz jbz
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      「 Apple’s Hypercard was a terrific and highly successful end-user authoring system whose media was scripted, WYSIWYG, and “symmetric” (in the sense that the “reader” could turn around and “author” in the same high-level terms and forms). It should be the start of — and the guide for — the “User Experience” of encountering and dealing with web content 」
      — Alan Kay
      #Hypercard #WebStandards

      In conversation Saturday, 29-Apr-2023 10:32:44 JST permalink

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