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   iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 08:55:08 JST iced depresso
   large sad that wayland is like haha remember consistent window decorations :blobcatfux: how about get fucked
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     Hélène (helene@p.helene.moe)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 08:55:07 JST Hélène

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     @icedquinn baffled that it's up to the app to handle them, instead of just opting out of them if they wish to, why did they decide that :akko_weary:
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 09:04:16 JST iced depresso

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     • Hélène
     @helene supposed to be some technical reason like its just handing the application a raw surface to draw on and this absolves the compositor of having to do more than it strictly has to.
     
     this is the work of the devault-emersion crew we're talking about and they won't even allow i3 patches that fix up the shadows and stuff.
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     Hélène (helene@p.helene.moe)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 09:12:21 JST Hélène

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     @icedquinn "the compositor having to do more than it strictly has to" includes window decorations to me
     
     if it's just about giving texture buffers to applications then why do we even have Wayland, and not just use GPU texture copy commands instead? this seems no better than Windows's dwm, or than SurfaceFlinger even
     
     this is such a pain for tiled desktop managers too, because now they need to deal with apps having window decorations which they may not want etc
     
     it's just, all bad really and ensures even more inconsistent graphical app experiences across an already very inconsistent GUI software landscape
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     iced depresso (icedquinn@blob.cat)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 09:17:18 JST iced depresso

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     • Hélène
     @helene it's ok gnome ignores what you want and gives you these over-crammed title bars anyway :dealwith_cirno:
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     Reid (reiddragon@linfan.moe)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 20:27:55 JST Reid

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     • Hélène
     @helene @icedquinn because gnome hates server side decorations
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     Reid (reiddragon@linfan.moe)'s status on Sunday, 04-Sep-2022 20:27:57 JST Reid

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     @icedquinn @helene funny they say it's so the compositor only does the bare minimum when gnome, the people who came up with that crap, are the same people loading their whole DE into the compositor, and infact without extensions made by KDE and Sway you actually can't make a DE any other way in Wayland, the original spec simply has no way for you to have a desktop shell outside the compositor
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