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   Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 00:31:04 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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   @p just throwing out an idea
   
   leaderboard for @fedilist , ranking instances by how many instances they 'discover', according to fedibot
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     @p @7 @fedilist @shibao @jeffcliff fedilist demo is up again?
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     pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 00:30:56 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @7 @fedilist @jeffcliff @shibao
     
     rc -c 'while(sleep 1){hget http://demo.fedilist.com/ | htmlfmt | awk ''$1$2$3 == "•Activeinstances:"{gsub(/,/,"");print $4}'';sleep 59}' >[2]/dev/null | histogram -t 'Fedi instances' -c 5 -v 40000
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     pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 00:30:57 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @7 @fedilist @jeffcliff @shibao Prometheus, probably; CSV, yes. (R probably has a thing in CRAN for asking Prometheus questions. This is probably easier than working with Prometheus's web UI. I should have thought of that sooner.)
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     nash's schizo daughter :ancapchanlol: (7@collapsitarian.io)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 00:30:58 JST nash's schizo daughter :ancapchanlol:

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     @p @fedilist @shibao @jeffcliff ... just curious, can't that output be piped into graphviz or R or the p9 histogram and be made useful?
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     pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 00:30:59 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @shibao @jeffcliff @fedilist
     
     > an rss feed would be orders of magnitude more verbose
     
     So there's also a CSV. :senko:
     
     > prometheus endpoints are just a couple lines of whatever text you want to give at a certain point...
     
     Yeah, but it's ugly. ( https://screamshitter.club/rvl/prometheus ) Semantic markup is better (parseable by selectors, presentable to the person using the browser as-is, with links and everything), there are plans for that. CSVs are better (very easy to use by piping them into awk), those are already present, RSS is better (wide variety of clients that will show you just new stuff). There are a million easier ways to get a single number into a TSDB, so there aren't any plans for Prometheus; if someone plans to actually use it, plans might form, but I don't have a use for it.
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     受不了包 (shibao@misskey.bubbletea.dev)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 00:31:00 JST 受不了包

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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @jeffcliff@shitposter.club @fedilist@freespeechextremist.com an rss feed would be orders of magnitude more verbose and force someone to implement/use xml parsing to ingest the data, when prometheus endpoints are just a couple lines of whatever text you want to give at a certain point...

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     @p@freespeechextremist.com @jeffcliff@shitposter.club @fedilist@freespeechextremist.com we have grafana + influx/prometheus these days

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     pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 00:31:01 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @shibao @jeffcliff @fedilist Yeah, I kinda hate them, though. I implemented some Prometheus stuff for Revolver but it is not helpful. I'd rather dump RSS and plain text and whoever can do whatever with that information.
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     pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 00:31:02 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @jeffcliff @fedilist Well, *.masto.host is an instance: nobody's gaming it.
     
     I think the better thing would be to start tracking when things swing in a weird direction: number of posts or new accounts or new peers goes up faster than expected. This would be useful for people that want to spot anomalies (like the *.gab.best or *.activitypub-troll.cf instances creating massive spikes in peer lists for some servers, or a spambot creating a big spike in posts) or people that want to see when something interesting is going on with the network (e.g., which instances are starting to get more activity).
     
     I'm trying to avoid doing anything to it that takes more than 15 or 20 minutes (because busy :liquidocelot:) so maybe instead of writing it, I'll just expose a firehose RSS feed and hope someone else writes it. All the changes, as they come in, as fast as anyone's bot cares to refresh, then they can do the data analysis.
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 00:31:03 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     ie
     
     this makes connecting to new instances a competitive bloodsport
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     Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯 (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 00:31:03 JST Jeff "never puts away anything, especially oven mitts" Cliff, Bringer of Nightmares 🦝🐙🇱🇧🧯

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     i suppose there's the problem of someone gaming this with subdomains
     
     so it has to be done with just unique domains
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     pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 10-Mar-2023 00:44:28 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @Jain @7 @fedilist @jeffcliff @shibao (The giveaway is that @fedilist started talking again. :senko:)
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     @Jain @7 @fedilist @jeffcliff @shibao Oh, yeah, it was back pretty quickly, I think.
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