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   Ademan (ademan@thebag.social)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:04 JST Ademan

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   • Sexy Moon
   • Sebastian Rieger
   • :pci: Benjamin Bellamy 🇺🇸

   128 bits is an awful lot, you’re not really saving any bytes vs string names at that point

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:04 JST Sexy Moon

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     @ademan @rieger_san @benjaminbellamy yeah. my first version was actually just a 16 bit integer id, if we exceed 65k activity types lets just change the protocol then and not worry about it now
     lainy likes this.
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     Ademan (ademan@thebag.social)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:05 JST Ademan

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     At least with names you probably need to be engaging with similar problems to run into a name collision

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:05 JST Sexy Moon

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     • :pci: Benjamin Bellamy 🇺🇸
     @ademan @rieger_san @benjaminbellamy yeah true. i was experimenting last year a bit and also settled on numbers but what i did was hash a name+versionid to 128 bits if i revisit it i will revise it to also hash your author id into it so there's not likely to ever be a collision. 128 bits is a lot though
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:06 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Sebastian Rieger
     • :pci: Benjamin Bellamy 🇺🇸
     @ademan @rieger_san @benjaminbellamy yeah it rubs me the wrong way even though theres nothing stopping two implementors on fedi from giving their new activity the same name and confusing servers
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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:07 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Sebastian Rieger
     • :pci: Benjamin Bellamy 🇺🇸
     @ademan @rieger_san @benjaminbellamy i got a little hung up over evend kind ids being seemingly centrally defined unless you literally can just pick a number and start coding a new event
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     Ademan (ademan@thebag.social)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:07 JST Ademan

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     Since it’s opaque to relays you can do whatever, but I don’t like kind ids being numeric because collisions are going to be common between people experimenting. You need to coordinate it somehow.

     (Also encoding persistence behavior into numeric ranges is super dumb)

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     Ademan (ademan@thebag.social)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:08 JST Ademan

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     or if they want to implement it out of spec…

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     Sebastian Rieger (rieger_san@mastodontech.de)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:16 JST Sebastian Rieger

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     • Sexy Moon
     • :pci: Benjamin Bellamy 🇺🇸

     @Moon @benjaminbellamy @ademan that’s true! Everyone can create a NIP and the community then discuss the pros and cons.

     There is no roadmap or something like this.

     When a NIP is finalized everyone can decide if he want to implement it or noy

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:17 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Sebastian Rieger
     • :pci: Benjamin Bellamy 🇺🇸
     @rieger_san @ademan @benjaminbellamy but a random guy on nostr insisted to me that nostr development is not centrally controlled
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     Sebastian Rieger (rieger_san@mastodontech.de)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:18 JST Sebastian Rieger

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     • Sexy Moon
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     @ademan @benjaminbellamy @Moon
     Nostr is an open protocol that only exists because of the nips.
     There is reference implementation, which means the specs are the only source of truth

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     Ademan (ademan@thebag.social)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:19 JST Ademan

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     specs aren’t always followed in practice, especially when things are rapidly changing, and that seemed to be what was happening from what @Moon said, but it turned out not to be the case.

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     Sebastian Rieger (rieger_san@mastodontech.de)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:20 JST Sebastian Rieger

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     • Sexy Moon
     • :pci: Benjamin Bellamy 🇺🇸

     @ademan @benjaminbellamy @Moon nips are the protocol spec’s! They are up to date ?

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     Ademan (ademan@thebag.social)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:21 JST Ademan

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     • :pci: Benjamin Bellamy 🇺🇸

     I wonder how horribly out of date the NIPs are then https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/57.md Granted I just skimmed it but it looked like lnurl was integral to the process

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     Ademan (ademan@thebag.social)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:22 JST Ademan

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     • Sebastian Rieger
     • :pci: Benjamin Bellamy 🇺🇸

     zaps require lnurl? gross

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     Sexy Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:22 JST Sexy Moon

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     • Sebastian Rieger
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     @ademan @rieger_san @benjaminbellamy i've received sats using plain old ln address
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     :pci: Benjamin Bellamy 🇺🇸 (benjaminbellamy@podcastindex.social)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:28 JST :pci: Benjamin Bellamy 🇺🇸

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     • Sebastian Rieger

     @rieger_san
     https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips/blob/master/57.md

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     Sebastian Rieger (rieger_san@mastodontech.de)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:29 JST Sebastian Rieger

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     • Castopod :podcasting2:

     @Castopod everyone who voted with no has not heard of zap’s! They are a game changer for content creators!

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     Castopod :podcasting2: (castopod@podlibre.social)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Mar-2023 16:36:30 JST Castopod :podcasting2:

     Hmmm… Maybe too soon… ??
     #nostr