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   Efi (nap pet) 🦊💤 (efi@chitter.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 15:24:17 JST Efi (nap pet) 🦊💤

   • Alexandra-Lilith

   @alilly incorrect, pre-cancerous cells with degraded RNA trigger apoptosis, which is a self-guided deconstruction of the cell's systems, then the immune system reprocesses the remains into base components

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     clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 15:24:16 JST clacke

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     • Alexandra(/Lilith?)
     @efi @alexandra prior restraint, self-censorship
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     wizzwizz4 (wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 15:24:45 JST wizzwizz4

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     • Alexandra-Lilith

     @efi @alilly Cool robot parts have to be made carefully in order to stop the immune system from deciding they're foreign contaminants and DESTROYING THEM (often ineffectually, but with much collateral damage).

     I believe there's also some research about teaching immune systems to recognise foreign tissue (e.g. transplanted organs) as their own, so immunosuppressants aren't needed.

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     Efi (nap pet) 🦊💤 (efi@chitter.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 15:24:46 JST Efi (nap pet) 🦊💤

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     • Alexandra-Lilith

     @wizzwizz4 @alilly that's not relevant? also, not a birth feature, but like, yeah, true

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     wizzwizz4 (wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 15:24:47 JST wizzwizz4

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     • Alexandra-Lilith

     @efi @alilly And some people have cool robot parts!

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     Efi (nap pet) 🦊💤 (efi@chitter.xyz)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 15:24:48 JST Efi (nap pet) 🦊💤

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     • Alexandra-Lilith

     @wizzwizz4 @alilly ya, the problem with treating cancer is the cells are technically as valid as any other body cell, they're just misbeheaving in a subtle way that grows like a snowball
     and the big tell about how this is not a binary choice of which cells are right or wrong is some people are born with chimerism: two different sets of working DNA spread randomly for every cell

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     wizzwizz4 (wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 18-Feb-2023 15:24:49 JST wizzwizz4

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     • Alexandra-Lilith

     @efi @alilly And many people have benign tumours that are not attacked by the immune system. If they don't self-destruct, it's only when they become a major threat / express foreign antigens that they're dealt with (afaik) (and even then, sometimes they're not).