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   Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 21:40:52 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

   I remember trying to buy a TV that does not have "smart" functionality a few years ago. It was a chore. Today it seems impossible.

   And not just TVs: ovens; refrigerators; dishwashers — all have "smart" options. In fact, it seems that more and more the available non-smart models are only the simpler ones, less performant in ways that are not related to any smart functionality missing.

   My non-smart TV was available only with lower resolutions than "smart" models of the same brand.

   #IoT

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     pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 21:40:36 JST pettter

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     @autiomaa @whvholst @rysiek @miklo @ares My decision/laziness to not get a car (or, as of yet, even a driving license) is vindicated once again.

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     Daniel Schildt (autiomaa@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 21:40:37 JST Daniel Schildt

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     @whvholst @rysiek @miklo @ares Funny part recently in the news was that most car tires have RFID tags that allow fingerprinting cars on the street. No need to use camera when industrial RFID reader is enough... ?

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     Walter van Holst (whvholst@eupolicy.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 21:40:38 JST Walter van Holst

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     • MiKlo:~/citizen4.eu$💙💛

     @autiomaa @rysiek @miklo @ares Yeah, and wifi-p in automotive probably is similarly problematic (even though I prefer that over UMTS-based connectivity).

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     Daniel Schildt (autiomaa@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 21:40:39 JST Daniel Schildt

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     • MiKlo:~/citizen4.eu$💙💛

     @rysiek @miklo @ares Mesh networks of home devices are already happening. Besides of Amazon's home devices creating open mesh network with any compatible device (across the walls to street and neighbours), there are similar in electricity measurement systems, solar panels, etc.

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     Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 21:40:40 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

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     • MiKlo:~/citizen4.eu$💙💛

     @miklo @ares yup. I expect Smart TV manufacturers to start rolling out 4g modems and device SIM cards in the next few years. Can't have those pesky Pi Holes block off that sweet sweet data revenue stream!

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     MiKlo:~/citizen4.eu$💙💛 (miklo@soc.citizen4.eu)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 21:40:49 JST MiKlo:~/citizen4.eu$💙💛

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     @rysiek @ares
     The real problem with #IoT is internet connectivity that:
     - has global reach
     - does not require any user authentication to connect (as in #wifi)
     - is not user-controlled (cannot be switched off or checked to see if it is sending/receiving anything)
     
     Currently, the #ecall system in cars fulfils all the above conditions and, unfortunately, is generally required by law in the EU.
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     Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 21:40:50 JST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

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     @ares I don't trust it not to connect to open WiFi by itself. Do you?

     Also, cars already come with 4g modems and SIM cards, wanna bet TVs are somewhere down the line also?

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     ares@kolektiva.social's status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 21:40:51 JST ares

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     your "smart" tv isn't smart anymore if you refuse to connect it to the internet

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     pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 21:45:13 JST pettter

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     @autiomaa @rysiek Sure, I'm well aware. That's also bad, and I truly wish that alternative mobile OSs were more widespread and well-supported.

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     Daniel Schildt (autiomaa@mastodon.social)'s status on Friday, 20-Jan-2023 21:45:14 JST Daniel Schildt

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     @pettter @rysiek To be fair, if you have any mobile phone device, you are already sharing most of your movements in real time (at least to the telecom operator and either Google or Apple).