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   lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 14:37:15 JST lainy
   i wonder if politics were better if politicians were paid a lot more. us prez earns as much as a facebook dev, practically guaranteeing that they'll find it inadequate and look for more sources of income.
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     why? (why@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 14:43:23 JST why?

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     @lain politics can never be made better they are consistently the worst part of every scenario without fail
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     joe (joe@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 14:44:20 JST joe

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     @lain like before ive thought that it would be great if politicians were just unpaid but now that i think of it yea theyd definitely turn to other sources in that case
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     joe (joe@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 14:44:21 JST joe

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     @lain different take than ive had but im too inebriated to respond well
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     Paolo Redaelli (paoloredaelli@mastodon.uno)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 14:44:26 JST Paolo Redaelli

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     I doubt. See Italian politicians. They are by far the most paid in Europe and perhaps in the world and our government is a mess. ?
     The fewer politician the better. The best politician is the non existing one.

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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 14:45:10 JST lainy

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     @paoloredaelli i agree, it's more of a thought experiment
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     Terry Hendrix II 🏹 (thendrix@social.hendrixgames.com)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 14:46:43 JST Terry Hendrix II 🏹

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     I think it helps if they hadn’t already earned millions from foreign interests before seeking higher office as well. Perhaps also be considered unfit when their brain no work. “Hello good.. night.”

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     「セル」cell (سل) (cell@pl.ebin.zone)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 14:48:03 JST 「セル」cell (سل)

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     @lain you should check out singaporean minister salaries
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     lainy (lain@lain.com)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 14:48:03 JST lainy

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     @cell looks like they're trying my idea
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     mk (mk@mastodon.satoshishop.de)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 14:48:49 JST mk

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     i think the #centralization of #power is a bad idea, because it facilitates #corruption and #tyranny.

     give more power back to the federal states and cities.

     the federal government should focus on border #security and #trade agreements with other countries.

     also stop the fucking #socialism in

     - the #energy sector
     - #healthcare
     - real #estate
     - #agriculture

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     Conspiracy-addled GenX'er (viking@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 14:49:16 JST Conspiracy-addled GenX'er

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     Singapore, young man!

     Their top politicos make a million USD per year, supposedly to make them somewhat corruption proof.

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     WalterKühl :bagpiper: (waltercool@pl.slash.cl)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 14:53:42 JST WalterKühl :bagpiper:

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     @lain Hans Hermann Hoppe explains that quite good
     
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsIUjxOXFkE
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     HellPie (HellPride) (hellpie@raru.re)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 15:10:28 JST HellPie (HellPride)

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     @lain as someone who fucked off out of Italy the second I had a chance, I often think the exact opposite tends to be true

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     Paolo Redaelli (paoloredaelli@mastodon.uno)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 15:20:59 JST Paolo Redaelli

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     Humans are greedy creatures. Most of them are never satisfied. They crave more and more money and power.
     We ask for the grace to resist temptation…

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     ilja (ilja@ilja.space)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 15:24:33 JST ilja

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     @lain Personally I think; Too few money, and you'll only get people who already have passive income and probably will use this position to increase their wealth. Too much money, and you make it even more attractive to psychopath billionaires who will use their wealth to get in power and then probably use this position to increase their wealth even more whatever the cost to the population.
     
     If we assume this to be true, the question becomes if there's a better balance between these two extremes. In Belgium there are politicians who don't take more than the average worker wage. They also publicly state what assets they have when they start their term, so it's clear where there may be conflicts of interest. (Note that this isn't a general rule, it's just one party who has this as policy.) Is this a good way of doing things? Idk, but at the very least someone with an average wage will have a much better feel than a rich person with passive income for the economical effects of their decisions on the gross of the population. So... maybe?
     
     All in all I would say the problem with current-day politics is more fundamental than what politicians are paid, though (for starters, I believe that elections being a zero-sum game is very bad for cooperation, which leads to bad results), but that's maybe besides the point here.
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