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   pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jan-2023 18:45:57 JST pettter

   It's "funny" when "russia experts" declare that peaceful coexistence is "impossible" between Russia and "Europe".

   What does that even mean? We should just throw all of our military might into an invasion and occupation? Nuke 'em?

   We'll just have Perpetual War forever?

   I guess if you're after capital destruction and a nice scapegoat to blame for all the reductions in state capacity and increasing inequality that's as good as anything.

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     maswan (maswan@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jan-2023 20:50:32 JST maswan

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     @pettter Pereptual war with a more or less solid armstice like the Korean one seems likely a few years from now, given that Ukraine's borders can be restored.

     Then it is "just" a huge drain on keeping an economic and military deterrent from them crossing the border again, until they change their way or the watch falters.

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     pettter (pettter@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jan-2023 20:52:05 JST pettter

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     @maswan Great. I'm sure there's nothing more urgent those resources could be used for.

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     maswan (maswan@mastodon.acc.umu.se)'s status on Tuesday, 10-Jan-2023 20:55:10 JST maswan

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     @pettter Thus a hope that they'll change their ways somewhat faster than North Korea.

     But I can't see other likely outcomes. A direct military intervention to change the government in Russia is iffy at best, and triggers the use of strategic nuclear weapons at worst.