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   unawarewolf 🐺 (gimmechocolate@bark.lgbt)'s status on Tuesday, 09-Sep-2025 02:17:59 JST unawarewolf 🐺

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   Final update (hopefully): The council makes a statement, changes the moderation guidelines.

   First I'll cover the code of conduct changes, which I suggest you give a read yourself:
   https://web.archive.org/web/20250908155110/https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/code-of-conduct-enforcement-process/59844

   All in all this a very good change. I don't think I could've written better rules myself. I've said that I don't think marginalized groups and bigots can coexist when treated as two equal sides. I do, however, think that we can coexist in a world where they work along side us, as long as they are told to shut the fuck up when they start being harmful, divisive, and/or assholes. Studies show that this dynamic when we all interact, just as normal people, without someone being yelled at for being themselves, is the best way to make a more tolerant world. I feel that these rules perfectly accomplish that.

   Of course that all assumes they are enforced fairly, and by people who aren't biased against the vales those rules represent, which brings me to the response itself:
   https://web.archive.org/web/20250908151805/https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/on-discourse-rules-about-politics/66986

   If you give the benefit of the doubt, it casts a new light on why the initial action was taken: due to generational gap, the mod saw it as a sexualized slur. Unfortunately that was a very small part of the criticisms; and the fact that two other mods chimed in, with responses that I've argued were both clearly not a mistake, and extremely ideologically charged; means that this response wasn't as perfect as the rule changes.

   I don't think that necessarily makes it bad mind you, but it does mean that the team will have it's work cut out for them making sure the people enforcing their rules aren't biased against said rules. Lets all remember what happened with Hyprland after the drama: they added rules about discrimination, but the leader of the project still agreed that it's ok to ban people for having pronouns in username.

   Even a really good set of rules are still no better than the people enforcing them.