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   That Would Be Telling (thatwouldbetelling@shitposter.world)'s status on Thursday, 17-Apr-2025 03:45:26 JST That Would Be Telling

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   @p @charlie_root @JoshuaSlocum @mangeurdenuage @mischievoustomato "> I just don't agree with some points made in it. Even the "who owns it is not a major difference" one he just emphasized.

   "A landlord is a landlord; it's not the same as owning your land. This is a major difference."

   Unfortunately for the Internet I accept the principle "You will own nothing and you will be happy." IP addresses? Only at the sufferance of your provider(s) and those like governments who can choke its throat(s). Ditto domain names, where that's quite explicit as I understand it (but that's somewhere the law may evolve, to give it a property right). And you pretty much have to be big or graf to not put your site behind someone's CDN, right? I mean, when Facebook for example will in error hammer your site for some photo optimization on their side and not give a fuck what else can you do? See also DoDS.

   So if we get targeted, we find we've built our stuff on a foundation of sand, although with enough effort the industrious have been able to find new homes, for example Stormfron (white nationalist 1.0 forum, "Damn this website has absolutely no useful updates on hurricane Florence but i'm pretty sure who's responsible for it now"), Gab, The Daily Stormer, and lately KiwiFarms. But plenty died, like Parler; if I remember correctly, AWS was frantically and repeatedly asking them if they'd give Trump a platform after J6, and they were turned off on January 10th, 2021 (the revival wasn't real from everything I've read).

   So it's "landlords all the way down," kinda like real property were in the US you also answer to your county at minimum on up. Except with infinitely fewer protections, from social/political to legal. But I'd agree the higher up you go in the stack the more capricious they are, and at the "AI" level that's very high.

   "Hope [the FBI etc. articles] were entertaining or informative."

   Essentially both, thanks!

   As for "rm is forever," if your friend is around your age, I'm probably older, MIT had no serious UNIX systems at all when started there (by that I mean with split-I and D PDP-11s like the /44, /45 and /70, the point where there's just enough address space to be useful as I saw it). Multics was killed by Honeywell, UNIX™ became big, such is life.