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   anime graf mays ?️? (graf@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Feb-2025 19:48:13 JST anime graf mays ?️?

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   @AmericanChampion @RandomITGuy @MCMLXVIIOTG here's your post with bullet points, man

   Okay, put very simply:

   • Around a decade ago, a pro-Russian candidate won the Ukrainian election

   • The U.S. did not like this, and it fomented a color revolution. There was no small amount of violence, and, eventually, a comedian who used to play a politician on TV became president. That's their current leader.

   • The government proceeded to engage in overt acts of terror against the Russian-leaning eastern regions. Cutting off water and infrastructure, shellings, even.

   • They were dehumanized in the media, to the point where regime-supporters sold food named after civilians and protestors that were burned to death, as a joke.

   • Russia didn't like any of this, but their government is very wary of kicking off a war. There are allegations of material aid to the increasingly beaten-down eastern regions, but conflicts essentially amount to scattered militias of old men being hunted down by one of the largest and best-funded (courtesy of American taxpayers) militaries in Europe.

   • Fast forward to 2020, there's talk of putting missiles in the Ukraine, and integrating it into NATO. There were treaties with Russia that forbid this, but the U.S. thinks they won't act on them. Russia, on the other hand, sees this as an existential threat - act now, or be slowly picked apart by people who will never negotiate in good faith.

   • A quick invasion occurs. Russian forces deploy, there's a negotiation, and then they withdraw, content that they've established they aren't a paper tiger. Shortly thereafter, the Ukraine kills its own negotiator and claims the negotiation didn't happen. The conclusion most reasonable people reach is that the decision wasn't made anywhere in Eastern Europe.

   • For the next several years, the Ukraine gets ground down by a better-prepared (and much larger) opponent. It is clear that this war was never to their benefit. A small (and increasingly smaller, gradually diminishing since 2021) group of deranged redditors insist that the Ukraine is winning. A more realistic, but much less sympathetic group of neocons acknowledge openly that its population is essentially being liquidated for the sake of trying to harm Russia.

   As a brief aside, Zelensky is fully aware that the goofy Ukranian nationalism thing that was drummed up over the years is bunk. He didn't even speak "Ukrainian" when he ran for office, nor did a pretty big chunk of the population.

   tl;dr: A pro-American president is elected in Canada. China stages what amounts to a coup, installs Jon Stewart as Canada's new PM, and has him use incendiary mortars on the American-sympathetic Albertans, to significant outrage in America. Stewart announces his intention to enter a military alliance with China and place nuclear missiles on the America-Canadian border. The U.S. invades to prevent this, and Stewart drafts every warm body he can find to delay the inevitable outcome. Despite a combination of military casualties and civilians fleeing the country halving Canada's population, China's domestic news sources insist that they will be taking D.C. any day now.