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   Christine Lemmer-Webber (cwebber@social.coop)'s status on Friday, 24-Jan-2025 01:31:13 JST Christine Lemmer-Webber

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   Okay, I will add one more thing. Multiple people (thx @stellarskylark, @aeva, @martinvermeer) have brought up "Rat Park", a counterstudy where rats, if given a sufficiently stimulating environment, won't lean on the lever until they die. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_Park

   This is actually great and in line with what I really wanted to point out, which is that the problem is that we shouldn't blame the individual, we should blame the environment. What environment do we give people?

   So yes, yay, rat park!