MR. BERNSTEIN: In this case, the specific reasons for why we sought the nondisclosure order -- I think if we get into the granular facts, that will be part of an ex parte submission. But I can say now that we expect to prevail on the litigation related to the NDO. And the basis for that -- there actually are concrete cognizable reasons to think that: If the former President had notice of these covert investigative steps, there would be actual harm and concern for the investigation, for the witnesses going forward. THE COURT: And that's based on your own investigation here, and not Volume II -- Volume II of the Mueller report which lays out, in hundreds of pages, the number of obstructive actions taken by the same person who was the user of the account at issue?
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