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   clacke (clacke@libranet.de)'s status on Saturday, 03-Aug-2024 14:53:38 JST clacke

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   They were struggling with things like "we have to pass this certification, but if we optimize for stopping for the fake child, we will be worse at stopping for a real-world child". They were taking the ethical issues seriously.

   Then Musk suddenly went and released fully autonomous driving while pretending that's not what he was doing, bypassing legal issues and safety issues and putting all blame on the human driver. It was *worse* than what other companies had, and from what I gather it is *worse* than human drivers, not better, and certainly not 10× better.

   At this point I am not convinced that autonomous cars will ever be safer than humans. Certainly not autonomous cars built by commercial companies competing in a time-to-market race to the bottom. Anyone taking safety seriously will be out-competed.

   It's just move fast and break things plus deadly traffic incidents.

   @azonenberg @PhilSalkie