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@ryo @digdeeper @Burn @djsumdog @lina It's absurd. My first computer (that was only for myself and not my mother's) had what? 0.5 GB of RAM? And that was enough for browsing the web and using GUI programs, and playing a bunch of games. By the time I got 8 GB of RAM, in the late 2000s or very early 2010s, that was so much RAM that I thought I would possibly never need more. But now I occasionally freeze my computer from using all 8 GB of RAM and all 8 GB of swap. And that's with auto tab discard. Even inactive tabs use a shitload of RAM somehow. And then I end up opening two or three browser windows, for different things, to try to keep things at least a little organized (this software really gets in the way of my productivity, because I have so much shit to look at and it's all mixed and things get lost constantly and I just forget about them, and there are no features in browsers to manage all of my stuff, and sessions are also unreliable, and every single window seems to use over 1 GB of RAM even with nothing in it), and that's where it really gets out of control. Sometimes I close a window, to free some RAM, and it starts using a lot more RAM instead of less, and sometimes that's when it freezes completely, presumably with both the kernel and X stuck in swap. All that not to mention programs that I stopped using because they had giant memory leaks. FUCK! WHAT A NIGHTMARE!