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But in a public November 2022 meeting recorded by the Energy and Policy Institute, PERC board members acknowledged that that characterization was inaccurate. “Twenty-five percent [of people consider] natural gas to be renewable, in this millennial and gen Z bucket,” an unidentified PERC board member said. “There’s a perception out there—not reality, but that’s perception. We can attach to that for propane.” “You can’t say natural gas is renewable,” PERC board member Leslie Woodward cautioned.