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   翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 23-Sep-2024 19:43:58 JST 翠星石

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   @meso Meds now.
   
   All listed laptops can have the ME disabled by simply not installing such proprietary software.
   
   Although such macbooks have crap hardware, you can get such laptops cheaply unlike what remains of the quality thinkpads.
   
   
   GNUboot has support for several motherboards which support AMD CPUs that do not have a PSP; https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuboot/web/docs/hardware/
   
   Newer AMD CPUs (post 2015) have the same issue as newer Intel CPUs (post 2008), that is, not being able to init without handcuffed proprietary software.
   
   
   Please point out which common, quality pre-PSP AMD laptops exist and I'm sure GNUboot would gladly list such as candidate hardware to GNUboot.
   
   Such laptops would need to come with a nvidia GPU that doesn't store the VBIOS in the BIOS SPI flash, as ATI/AMD GPUs have only minimal free software support (you can avoiding loading the proprietary software and still get native resolution, but you don't get 3D-acceleration, or suspend support).
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   翠星石 (suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com)'s status on Monday, 11-Dec-2023 21:58:56 JST 翠星石

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   @evochkauwu >This is not very profitable
   Is all you think about the profit of billion dollar companies?
   
   If you actually meant that such is not very cheap, obviously freedom isn't cheap.
   
   Old thinkpads are cheaper, same as a specific model of macbook but those have some drawbacks.
   
   Supported hardware is listed here; https://www.gnu.org/software/gnuboot/web/docs/hardware/
   
   >it will be cheaper to take old Xeons from Aliexpress and a Chinese board or build a PC on old AMD Ryzen
   Yes, for the reason being that such hardware won't init without proprietary malware, with digital handcuffs to cryptographically prevent its replacement.
   
   Even if you're ultra-stingy, why would you go out of your way to get hardware that doesn't respect your freedom?