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> your user get to say mean shit to randos than randos not semi regularly see mean shit?
If you want the actual rate, this has been quantified, it's in the paper I posted. The answer is "No, this is a lie." Catch up.
> or he can bother people and most people will block your server.
Most people, as it turns out, do not. The entire "We're the majority" tactic that a few assholes use is the same tactic that Lenin/Stalin/Trotsky used by naming their party the "Bolshevik" ("Majority") and their political opponents the "Menshevik" ("Minority"). Pretending there is a popular mandate to appeal to is not only useless, it's irrelevant, and it's slimy. I don't see evidence of a
Most servers have not blocked FSE. The majority of those that have blocked FSE have done so on malicious hearsay which you insist on repeating even after I have not only said that it's malicious but have demonstrated it and provided links that you can verify independently. You have chosen to ignore evidence and repeat the lie. It's one thing to ignore my perspective and substitute your own: that's merely rude. Ignoring hard facts, though, is a propaganda tactic. It's used by people pushing an agenda, not by people that care about the words they are saying beyond their effect. Now, even if I give you the benefit of a doubt and say "Well, he's said that he doesn't have time to read those links", you persist in pushing a story that contradicts facts, and it's very difficult to assume good faith, especially since you've got time to participate in the thread but no time to read a handful of paragraphs or examine actual hard data. I get this from Nazis all the time: they insist something that contradicts facts, I present some of those facts, they persist in ignoring it and they continue pushing their story at me, because they cannot account for any of the facts presented. I'd like to avoid concluding that you are malicious: can you help me with this by paying attention to the numerous supported facts? You're clearly willing to speak with conviction and assert several facts, and I have seen no evidence for these facts but I have seen evidence to the contrary. If you don't care enough about what you're saying to actually look at facts, I've just got the one conclusion left, so please help me out. Here is a trivial one: you have insisted that every troll is right-wing (and declined to say what you mean when you say "troll"), but you can find some left-wing trolls: go talk to @hashi@detroitriotcity.com, for example, though that person may be a parody. Or @fuckracists, who was expected to be a parody but who turned out to be an alt of @SocialistStan, who is apparently sincere. This is before we get into the issue of the entire premise underlying everything you are saying: you apparently assign a central role to US/EU politics in all communication. I reject this entirely: as I said, politics bore me, the left/right distinction reflects propaganda more than reality, and this is an international network, with a lot of people here do not fit into either of those boxes. If you want to care about those boxes, that's your business, but I will decline until I've got some sort of indication that they matter.
Now, speaking of diversions, I said "this is a pointless discussion without an answer to that question." The question was, what is your best attempt at a rule that filters the assholes? And which assholes? I'd say that someone that harasses people for declining to block is a bigger asshole.
And, for the third time, they have walled themselves off, their fixation on blocks (as a surrogate, as they are unable to apply physical force to the people they dislike) is hurting them, it does not hurt me, and if they want to punch themselves in their collective dick, it's not my business, so I don't have much reason to care and if I'm assuming good faith, I am still putting in more effort to engage with you on this topic than you are putting in. That is the core of my complete lack of interest in altering anything about FSE: nothing I do will alter their relation to FSE because they are willing only to dictate, not converse. The #fediblock crowd has decided without listening or even looking and they do not care what I have to say: do I have a reason to listen to them? I don't want to jump the wall, I'm happy here: is there something inside the wall that I want? It matters as much to me as US passports being rejected by a country I don't plan to visit.
So, the conversation is moot *and* the goal is a goal I don't care about *and* I don't think you are reading what I write (or if you are, you're ignoring everything I say). I don't see a point in discussing this unless you are willing to discuss it, and even if so, I still don't think I've got a reason to care about it, and if I did care about it, it wouldn't alter anything. nicecrew.digital has instance-blocked my account, at my insistence: I don't think I've lost anything. Do I *want* for FSE to be unblocked by abdl.link or todon.nl or weirder.earth or monads.online? I honestly couldn't give a damn. I would like them to stop lying about FSE and lying about me personally (again, claiming I have threatened to murder them, or that I am a secret fascist/racist/whatever), but I don't really hold out much hope for that because they are bad-faith actors and any attempt on my part to appease them would be stupid. Is there a reason for me to care?
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