Image of an undead football player charging towards the goal line. Caption reads "Sorry motherfucker, but insulting you isn't an ad hominem if I'm not trying to refute your argument with the insult"

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   Studio 8502 :verified: (mos_8502@oldbytes.space)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jul-2023 18:23:52 JST Studio 8502 :verified:

   If you espouse monstrous ideas, and I call you a monster, that is not a refutation of your ideas, it is a refutation of you as a person, which is a separate issue from the ideas themselves, which I can probably also prove are false in addition to being monstrous -- but that assumes that monstrous ideas deserve to be debated, rather than merely discarded without further consideration.