Notices by Johannes Ernst (j12t@social.coop), page 2

@andresmh @wearenew_public This is I think why good moderation and community management are such essential skills to have to make those groups effective.

New_ Public is starting a project on hyperlocal online communities -- neighborhoods, towns, that kind
of thing.

I'd be in, if something like this existed in my neighborhood, and is better than Nextdoor!

/cc @wearenew_public

@pfefferle good, that’s the point of course :-) Also, @steve has been doing a lot of the work.

Not liking the terminology in this OpenID spec: "A federation can be expressed as an agreement between parties that trust each other."

As a non-technical example, the US of A is a federation. This implies that Texas and California trust each other. Doubtful.

It's also not the same way we think about the "federation" part of the Fediverse, although I'm not sure that we've ever attempted to crisply define what we mean by federation and not.

https://openid.net/specs/openid-federation-1_0.html

The coldest year for the next 1000 years or so.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/05/climate/12-months-record-heat-un-speech/index.html

“Farcaster, a crypto-based social network, raised $150M with just 80K daily users”

You can do something with that kind of money. I wonder what they will.

https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/21/farcaster-a-crypto-based-social-network-raised-150m-with-just-80k-daily-users/

The Wikipedia page on “social web” urgently needs updates. And wasn’t ever particularly good anyway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_web

Newsmast did an analysis of which communities tend to be on which social networks.

https://www.newsmastfoundation.org/our-blog/mapping-the-social-web/

/cc @FreddieJ

These snap peas are … big! At least twice the volume of what you get in the store,

#hydroponics https://project-springtime.org

I just realized that arguably I started working on the social web in ~1999, not ~2005.

At Aviatis, I created this feature where our users -- who were engineers -- could share semantic objects of certain engineering diagrams shown in a browser with each other with deep context for purposes of collaboration around those objects. That's about as social as a use case as I can think of...

That was Java applets rather than HTML, but I don't think the users cared (except for the load times ...)

Anybody know what triggers a profile re-fetch in #mastodon ?

After an instance accessed a remote account for the first time, it fetches name, avatar, number of followers etc. When will it fetch it next to potentially update?

Exciting things are progressing around the #Fediverse. I can't wait!!!

The fediverse needs something like this.

https://techcrunch.com/2024/05/16/x-pushes-more-users-to-communities/

The #Fediverse is like a startup in many ways.

Some days you are totally elated about all the amazing things that are becoming possible and within reach. We are changing the world!

Some other days you are in the depth of despair that this is never going to work and how could you possibly ever have thought otherwise.

This week definitely is the former. A movement is forming, good people are coming out of hiding and are getting excited and involved. So glad to be part of it!!

Rachel: re monitization, so far we are only focused on giving people a great experience on Threads

Going forward, they want to hear from lots of people and communities and regulators before they figure out what is acceptable and what not.

Peter: quotes a session from @fediforum where business models were discussed.

Mike: there will be many business models.

Mike: "one of the original sins of the internet is that the relationship between the person and a website was not done at the protocol level. I see the fediverse with the ability to have a direct relationship as a core answer to them treating people with respect."

This is as close as a #VRM pitch as I have heard from somebody who hasn't been part of the VRM community! https://cyber.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Main_Page

Peter is thanking the community working so well together and help debug bugs live!

"We are all on team fediverse!"

Rachel provides two key reasons (my phrasing):

1. #Threads wants to be the best place where people have relevant, public, real-time conversations, and the #fediverse is the means by which people can find the audiences that are best for those conversations, because not all of them will be on Threads.

2. The fediverse is a compelling way for creators to own their audiences in a way they aren't able to own on other apps today.

@mike asks: How foundational in the Fediverse to Threads? Or is it just a feature?

A: Fediverse was part of the planning from the very beginning. There are lot of new things to introduce users to, and also a lot of new things to understand when federating beyond what a typical app does. Like how can users control what happens, and understand what happens?

@mike asks: what about other federation protocols like #AtProto?

A: #ActivityPub is a W3C standard, that's important. It's also been battle-tested over the years.

@pcottle muses it would be interesting to "port over" some AtProto features to ActivityPub, like account portability.