@deilann@tech.lgbt Or like how when a city was considering whether to extend their moratorium on evictions, and a rich cishet man told the city council he would commit suicide by hunger strike if they didn't let him evict tenyants, and so the city council gave him exactly what he wanted. https://www.wonkette.com/p/landlord-hunger-strike-eviction-moratorium Because it turns out when rich people are the ones contemplating suicide, suddenly incarceration is a horrible violation of their rights.
The phrase "danger to self or others" is a motte and bailey fallacy.
The motte is "murder is so bad that the government should use incarceration in an attempt to reduce murder."
The bailey is "suicide is so bad that the government should use incarceration as a punishment for anyone who even thinks about suicide. Moreover, mental health doctors should be required to play a dual role as both health care providers and cops, who must arrest anyone they suspect of thinking about suicide."
It frequently accompanies another motte and bailey argument, conflating the positions (Motte) Many creatures benefit from consenual mental health treatment, and in some cases that may include consensually staying overnight in a medical ward. (bailey): The government should incarcerate some creatures who haven't even been accused of hurting anyone and call it "mental health care."
The supporters of the latter position know it is indefensible, which is why they need to use dishonest arguments equating it with easier-to-defend positions.
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