Notices by Quinn Norton (quinn@social.circl.lu), page 10

@Mustardfacial we're fighting for the holocene, specifically, planet is fine, we know what we mean. don't be a pedant about it, we all know the geology is fine 😂

@thrilway 😂

@dominikg @vmstan i mean depending on nuclear proliferation... 😂

@ParadeGrotesque they can't drive a billion cars at once tho, can they?

@ErgonWolf not really? we've known it was a problem since the 1800s, but the practical solutions are mostly in the last 20 years. solar/battery/wind etc hasn't been in a position to scale until very recently.

@tek_dmn 😂

i mean, i don't think you're right, because they might trust ai, but does it make them do anything? nah. but it's funny.

The most maddening tech discourse these days is that we need AI to figure out how to solve climate change.

We've known how to completely solve climate change for more than a decade, thanks. We just don't want to.

@magicalthinking (the red car case was part of the american auto makers' efforts to destroy public transit and force everyone into car dependancy. it wasn't just a big city thing.)

@magicalthinking there's definitely different kinds of transit for different kinds of areas. Buses are great, though stimatized. Bike lanes that prioritize throughput, safety, and green spaces are great. rail and subway are for larger areas, but trams, trolly cars and dedicated public transport lanes are fantastic even for smaller towns. there's a whole lot of urbanism that scales down. remember that streecars were vital community fabric before the red car case.

@magicalthinking politically i wish i could see and upwelling of support for trains and other public transit options. a train friendly america with intercity service, sleepers and good local transit that was lovingly maintained would be amazing.

@magicalthinking Cotton is often a real bad problem because of water use and habitat destruction. Cotton is what destroyed the Aral sea... which isn't to say don't use any but think about where it's coming from and buy second hand when you can, and repair what you have.

I also use heating pads instead of house heating, that's been really good. and looking at which power sources you can purchase from a utility, they often have green options.

I wrote about the incredibly easy ways to limit your climate damage years ago https://medium.com/no-neutral-ground-ground-in-a-burning-world/these-easiest-climate-wins-in-the-world-f52913f50adb

No one cared. No one wants to hear it, even when it's incredibly easy. That's how monstrous we are.

@jered healthy for whom? what does healthy even mean?

(right this second, compared to the news out of spain, he's positively rosey)

@jered i hadn't. that was about right, i suppose.

"But we didn't have any easy options in the society we'd built"

Yeah that's going to wash with the generations of suffering we're dooming our own damn children to, because we are literally too selfish to give up any luxuries.

Stop lying about loving your children. It's not just words, if you love someone you act. This isn't a loving future. We despise our children. We laugh while we stack up pain death and disease for them.

If you think history is going to reflect on us fondly, well, expect it to be about as fondly as southern slave owners. You are going to be a monster among monsters. "I wasn't one of the 1%" is going to be "I only enslaved one or two black people, not like a big plantation." kind of excuse.

The find out period is going to make me just die of continuous anger. Everyone wants to say it's someone else's fault and get into a big argument about agency and governance. It's our fault, it's entirely our fucking fault.

I owned cars and flew in planes, I ate meat and Amazon'd shit I didn't need. Don't tell me it's Exxon. If Exxon didn't have any customers, it wouldn't have any emissions, would it?

@helvick @hacks4pancakes yeah, that's right. But you can at least try to take a few breaks in December.

@dymaxion @hacks4pancakes that's what the gin is for

@hacks4pancakes probably a few weeks as the court challenges come in, time to break out the provigil and gin.