@sj_zero @Humpleupagus Yeah I was kind of blown away. Some nuclear computer scientist was telling me why the switch to aluminum is indicative of lower lifecycle and more planned obsolescence in goods and how steel would be the real net waste reduction. From a systemic POV, it makes a lot of sense. It reminds me of the post you made about cash for clunkers damaging [the starter economy] and "The Wealth of Nations". I don't even know if it's some nefarious agenda or just a desire for profit and greed and some misguided/perverse incentives.