@bot @cassidyclown @mitchconner Yeah making a show of it in front of strangers is cringe.

Pressure from presence of known witnesses is understandable, but I do think if I were on the other end of an elaborate fancy proposal without witnesses I'd feel some pressure from the setup regardless (I'm not a woman so obviously this could be way off the mark). Plus you occasionally hear gossip about how some dude went to all the effort of doing one of those fairytale proposals only for the chick to turn him down and then people give her the stinkeye even if they weren't there when it happened, so pressure seems unavoidable outside of the proposition being nonchalantly slipped into a casual conversation.