@phnt @cvnt @pwm @transgrammaractivist @Owl @dj @NonPlayableClown @mint Yeah tho it is a bit better.

I've been using void on the pi's and armbian on my C4 boards.

one that does have good support at least from what i've seen so far is diet pi.

However you have very few options if systemd is a dealbreaker.

Slack has an image for it but I havent used it in months for the reasons you just mentioned.